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Yeah, yeah.

Did you get that Frank Dentalist finished?

Yeah, yeah.

Now did you add business people, I mean supporter types and so forth?

That's exactly what I want done.

For any of those in the future, we can use the big chairs and have 62 people and not so overloaded with the state and all that sort of people.

At this time, we can provide a lot of them, but I...

All right.

He, uh, he, of course, was an awful thing to do.

I mean, it all happened.

It was extremely, uh, concerning for him.

He had a transplant, and then he had to be taken care of for a very long time.

And he, uh, I told him, and then I asked him, I said,

Yesterday, for the first time, he said that the political and other things didn't have to be .

But everything he's saying publicly now is an answer to what we said to him.

What did you say was very .

With respect to the standard assets, as we just laid it out, we had to be in closing time before the event was going to take place.

We were a little bit over a minute late, and we didn't know what to expect.

And then, at the end of the session, one of us had to go to the next deal.

And we got there pretty quick.

Actually, I met with one of the political coaches once, too, and we wanted to let our small business have a position.

And he said, when you take them to town,

I still take the hour to sleep while he's talking about the... ...the attempt.

They have actually, I probably have done it two weeks ago.

And Tender never wanted to cheat on me, but I think he forgot to mention it.

He continued to use the advantage when I was born.

He said, there might have been a foreign menace, but it didn't have a major influence.

It's a major role, and they don't have, except that he had with our system, we said, if you had the direct way to the chiefs of staff, without any staff, you know, and with the state department, I had to make a reminder to the president, to the chiefs of staff, that he can call his own.

And he said that if it were anything foreign to his people,

would almost guarantee success.

But the military, he said, showed his grievance.

It sounds plausible, because God has said, we'll provide insurance.

He said, when he was there for the public congress, they showed the grievance.

And he said, .

And who are you to contradict me?

But he said, he thought that .

So the president, apparently,

Well, uh, so, he knows that this is the last opportunity now.

He knows that the virus, that he, uh, may...

I said, I can't guarantee you.

Then he wanted to know if, for any reason, it comes through for September, what would be a good month.

But the defender would be positive, and I said, no.

I said, it's down to me.

They've got to decide what they're going to do.

They, of course, have great attention when they get a new game out there.

They can get us to set up a level for them.

And then they go to practice, and they can take advantage of it, and maybe then they'll go on.

The analysis now is that, you know, you have an economic crash, you have these kinds of stuff.

He said, don't believe me.

That's what we hear from everybody else.

I'm not absolutely sure that they do consider that.

He said, don't believe me.

That's what we hear from everybody else.

But when he said, when I told him about me and how he said, uh, well, uh, uh, he doesn't do the Chinese, whatever, he doesn't know.

He said the Chinese always come up with the other words for people, and, uh, he doesn't read.

What?

Mm-hmm.

We're going to have to roll it.

We're going to have to roll it, I think.

I'm sorry, we're going to move in that direction.

Canada just so can make a $1 or $2 billion great deal.

In other words, it means something.

Nothing for consummating.

If you're into two subjects, then you can do this.

I have a channel.

If you have even one, you can have it.

I mean, some of you are like me.

Some of you are like me.

Well, I'm not going to do that, are you?

Well, let me ask you why we're doing that.

Yeah, we won't give them any more than a hundred years, but we can.

We have to get them approved.

We've got $720,000.

We should revoke it.

I know this is a diligent ask, but these guys put that down when you listen.

You see, how you, whatever the discretionary courage, they can work one out.

Now they want you on television next week for the signing of the Okinawa Delta Air.

I'm not sure it's a bad idea.

No, no, I don't want to be on television.

I just, I'm not just, I really don't want to be on television.

I just, I can't make you go to the State Department.

I mean, I can't, but I want the staff to look up, I guess they can do it.

Politically unpopular.

So just let it go.

Politically unpopular.

It's politically very popular today.

I'm not saying that's why you should do it.

It just means people are excited about it.

You figure it out.

I do not want to.

I do not want to be in a position.

Really?

No.

If you've got a plan on the Woodville, we can get it written in.

It's great.

Let it go on.

Well, you know, you owe us an honor to get buses.

I know.

I know, but they're all pretty dirty.

And the point is, we've got to have some politics involved.

I think you've got everything.

Well, the Japanese, and certainly the Europeans, aren't playing a lot of good game either.

If it's discretionary, we'll do it.

Mm-hmm.

Well, of course, we have a combination of the State Department that doesn't want any trouble, and people like Don Kendall.

who don't, who, in fact, do not take textiles without a point.

They give the impression that we don't really have all that good of a care.

Ain't no others.

I see nothing else we can do.

I don't think that's a good thing.

You've got to remember, Andrew, that right now we're getting better at the core of that.

I agree.

I don't see the other answer either, but I bet you'd come up with that.

That's what we're going to do.

The hell with the economic people.

I'm not going to screw around.

They can't get us the rest.

We're going to fight this weak trade the rest of our lives.

The hell with them.

I was wondering about this.

Getting to the Vietnam, have you done any more thought about what, if anything, we could do this month in terms of the...

I mean, if this is positive, with the group of drafts that we... On the drafts?

On the drafts.

Just once more, what, if anything, can be done?

It is a murderous problem.

I've tested it in terms of numbers, but in terms of the fact that a lot of people have spent their days

They wouldn't have to go to Vietnam every other occasion.

So now if we turn around and send them to Vietnam and to draft these, not to Vietnam, then the enlistment will be dropped, and everyone may want to be drafted.

Now that's the thing that we have to have in mind.

We know that it's a big deal.

Well, if there are two, one I may put back.

This one is a present.

Mm-hmm.

We had one of our others who called in and had the assault.

I told Franco that if he had any information, he didn't share it with anybody in his administration.

Another point was that he had to get out.

We had never offered to discuss the criminal case.

I think, Rich, I haven't seen it, but I've seen it.

We may have one more shot at doing it, and we want it to come all the way up to this level.

There's a mess up, and there's a step up, and there's a huge, and there's a lot of students, and there's a lot of former secretaries, and there's a lot of people who are part of the whole of that deal, who knows how they're going to do it.

Those I accepted at the very time of the bombing of Afghanistan, for Christ's sake, what the hell is going on with us?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

That's all I'm trying to do is meditate.

That's the only thing we can do.

I don't want to get older.

which I think is going to be more than those.

And that's what Mitchell and I said yesterday.

Why didn't we announce those?

They had been appointed to their projects.

First, the fact that they all announced the compact road line in the summer, and we announced that in the year, was quite an impression.

And we'll have to address it on today.

We'll have to put it right here.

What you're doing, it would make it a bit more

Is there any, how was it, did Laird put up the action figures?

The police men played the first time.

Good.

Aw.

Yeah, he's got this son of a bitch in him.

Uh, he just, just plays his whine and whatever it is.

One problem we have, Mr. Christen, Helms was so disturbed, as I am, uh, that he talked to Mitchell about it at one of our other meetings.

Mm-hmm.

He says, that Laird is taking all our bloody assets out of South East Asian.

We're gonna wait till next year.

We cannot afford a 10-offensive to hit us next year, since we are in the process of withdrawing.

Because if we do, then we'll be accused that we could have had the first year.

And then let's get the others in.

I called him yesterday.

I told him about that.

I told him.

He said, you've got to be able to live with it.

And when I say that, it's because we have this promise that we're going to bring your life back to earth.

And I didn't mean to lie.

It wasn't anything that they owed me.

I knew it was an old action.

I knew it was out of the door, but it was an assault on China.

And it's not only our action.

I want you to concentrate.

You will always.

Now, if you look here, you'll be able to sort of watch.

The Bunking particular, Bunking, I would agree with Bunking.

He was terrible at that.

Correct.

But he might be the minister.

You've got to watch for him.

I like him in the armistice, but you've got to tell him, now look here, we need your support and understanding of this, but don't get any pressure.

In this administration, in this president, we've taken in by everybody.

There's no euphoria because it's a tough, hidden, cold proposition.

And we don't like to talk to your lawson.

He'll buy it.

But he bought it on Solve.

On Solve?

Yes, and I said to him, look, because he hasn't really yet understood the substance of it.

I think this is going to sell now.

I talked to him also.

I said, now, look, we may have someone to talk to.

I guess you can't do it.

Uh, we'll try once more on that later.

I think there's nothing else we can do about it.

If you're not seeing that one from the 26th as well, we won't see it.

We'll see a few of the 6th as well.

We've got the message from yesterday.

They want to lose the amount.

Prisoners are a deadly, vicious game.

They're used to it.

They're our friends.

They want to get out too quickly.

Correct.

Absolutely.

And both put the idea in the book.

They want to collapse in South Vietnam.

It's Godfather.

And this is why, Mr. President, I really agree.

It is a mistake for us to fight only on the ground if we are getting out.

Because if just the other side, if I can, we should accuse Flipper and Company One of you turning over to the company.

I agree.

I want that done.

I don't know.

We cannot debate on this POW.

That's the wrong issue.

You've got to say that Clifford's crying about us all the time.

And he's just getting him.

He's getting him.

He's rising behind him.

You're absolutely right.

I agree the difficulty is I can't step out and get that right now.

I have got to do it at the right time.

I don't think Lipa helped himself too much with it.

I saw in the post, for example, they said this is in fact what he's been saying for many years.

There's nothing good in that.

Yeah.

I know very well.

Very well.

The difficulty here is that this kind of stuff can screw it up.

That's great.

And we're not, we must not allow it to happen.

I don't think it will.

Thank God it's ruled us out.

At least we are going to have a major riot.

The interesting thing is that he has trouble carrying his head.

They must have at least demonstrated that how to do that.

Right.

Well, I am not at all discouraged about where we are.

I know where we are.

Two weeks too late, unfortunately.

He bettered it over two weeks early.

Right.

Yeah.

I mean, that's the point of it.

I mean, I checked with that, and I'm in the 27th year.

I did all this jammering, and I was like, now I'm just preparing to jump whatever it was.

Looking in that direction is another interesting thing.

The average person can notice that, for example, for example, one thing I found interesting in the interview, somebody said to me, what's a reasonable time?

What time would you consider reasonable?

He said, well,

He kept June 30, 1971.

And they said, well, that's good.

And they said, well, how about six months?

How about nine months?

He used to be tied down to that.

But finally he said, well, President Nixon has already given 12 months.

When you gave 12 months in the context of the mutual withdrawal,

That means to me that they might accept, I think, if they accept the package, they'll accept something in the neighborhood throughout the month.

It will be because another thing they said to the preceptor was, why are you, what's the rule of your flexibility?

He said, well, in the past, we had always had very much military issues, he said, because

Now they think that this can be settled in relation to the military issue at all.

Again, there are only four people in this world who understand that, sir.

Yes, that's what you offer.

That's what I offer, then, and that's what he immediately hit on.

But for all these reasons, I think nothing ever happens.

But all this public talk they're doing now is a way of psyching us.

What?

They're moving this chapter aside.

Mm-hmm.

We have to knock down.

You're not going to get it.

They say no, we have no problem.

If they just talk in a nice way and in effect say no, we have no problem.

If they make a movement but don't fully buy it yet, then we cancel the sale.

I don't know where we're going now.

I think I have the two selections.

We are going to go to the road.

The road may seem that it's getting out by July 1st, but we're in a way of that.

We ought to get the whole car there.

I think I know where the car is.

It's a wine.

His name is Quique.

Quique?

I don't know him.

He's a cocky little bastard.

But he'll spill blood.

There's one more man.

I don't mean he'll spill blood.

But somebody has to keep this thing a fighting bitch.

Very tough.

not soldier, somebody who will try to make it go.

I've had a series of meetings every afternoon this week, and I'm going on and on until I get it done.

On Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, and whatever you catch as mush.

Because ordering mush has all played its interest to them.

And it pissed away a year's military equipment to the Cambodians.

Because the goddamn embassy is fighting about keeping the military presence low.

Nobody's going to give us any high marks next year if we do this with a low profile.

Nobody's going to give us high marks.

I'm doing it now.

I don't need them.

I just want to get it done.

I'll write a memo to them saying we're going to have 100 people if we need 100.

Now that's the way to go about conditional order.

Conditional order?

If that's what is needed, let's get an order out there.

Rather than 100, I'd say 90, just to leave it all apart.

I say, just get me, have me find out what is needed, what is not.

And I will issue an order.

I want it done immediately.

All right, will you do that?

Now, let's start screwing around with this.

We've done this for three months.

that we have $200 million of equipment that is being wasted and so forth.

We've got to have it.

I want these people there to see this equipment properly and so forth.

They should be given temporary to be there.

Put it on that basis.

Temporary duty.

Or up to 90 people.

Put it 90.

Fair enough.

And that is very something to go with.

I wish this order actually .

Now that's just something .

That's terrible.

Absolutely.

And you told me before, what did they do?

Blocking the study.

What about Laos?

Laos had put A1s out.

They dropped legs.

For example, I noticed that power was starting to subside.

That's the order we should react to that.

Well, they're doing pretty well, actually.

Mr. President, do you remember a year and a half ago when they told us it was lost?

It was lost, but it restarted.

The only way they're going to be able to vote this time now is to make them know every day that they are going to pay an exorbitant price next year.

That's the only hope we've got, otherwise it won't settle.

I had laid it in to the people, and I said, the people will know.

They'll know.

You've got that kind of plan, too.

Each one of you should well realize that Vietnam, they don't suck.

We're going to play goddamn hard, and we're not going to wait until the election.

We're going to plug in a bit of the silver, and we're going to start hitting them, and I mean hit them hard enough.

They're going to be a son of a bitchy thing.

They've announced what we've offered.

They've turned it down.

They still keep our prisoners, and now we're going to let them have it.

That's what I think.

Of course, the way you can do it is with the announcement, with the way out.

I mean, I do that before the election, too.

I don't think there's any problem.

I mean, this whole business is being so loosey about the election.

If we make a strong announcement about what we're doing, I mean, if we provide some action, that'll help you.

I haven't heard of a vote getting out, but if you put some issues out that continue to be withdrawn,

You've got to say something.

You can go hard, but you've got to say something that's grammatical.

You can't say, I shouldn't have used the word wrong, but I'm very good.

You've got to do that anyways.

You've got to say something different in order to judge somebody.

I think it is very good, but...

I think you should go back then to the town and try and say, I tried to get a truth out.

It won't go out.

And now, in order to truly say it's not true, we'll take it out of your opinion.

And we'll try to ask for the truth.

Thank you.

We have got to give them enough of a rap that the South Vietnam will survive and will do a different rap.

That's the only thing.

We may lose everything else, but we're not going to lose the country.

That's the whole point.

that we're not going to go back and evaluate it after all the suffering and so forth we did to what we could have done when we had the power to see it.

There is a legend that the enemy has got to have a mind.

I hope that's clear.

You made it clear to the brain.

Why the hell do you think you can't go to the very part of the archdiocese?

I don't even know how you do it.

Because of Laos, for Christ's sake.

Oh, yeah.

What the hell would they do if we hadn't had Laos?

They'd be a hundred times more... Oh, if we hadn't had Laos, all these troops and packs would be...

Even as failed as necessary.

All right.

Mm-hmm.

Of course, what you have in the way is if you hadn't done well and had been hit with a bigger man, you would have lost public support, too.

So we had nothing but lousy choices.

We were just sons of bitches in the Pentagon, knowing they were getting a lot of charges and put the best people on it and drilled it like a Lombardi football team.

You were a dead rock.

That's the thing that's inexplicable.

You're a dead rock in the history of warfare.

If they had pursued, they didn't show the bully, by the way.

There was a battle two days, three days before war.

And they beat the Prussians.

And the Prussians went through.

And they had pursued the Prussians.

So the Prussians couldn't have doubled back and come in at war.

No, they wouldn't have won.

If they had pressed their attack earlier against the British, if they had thrown in the cavalry, they probably wouldn't have won.

You see, this is the little things.

They lost war.

And at that time, you either won or won't.

I think you're lost for words.

I think we've got to find a new way.

We have to go.

The President, irresponsibly, every weekend during this landslide operation, he had to thank us.

They just wouldn't drive.

To see his family, business as usual.

So if he's not there, the difference between a good organization and being the only one is whether you drive your people and get things out of them.

You are absolutely right.

Absolutely.

You are absolutely right.

They like to be loved.

Mm-hmm.

Very good.

Mother.

See?

I don't know how that's going to be involved.

I don't understand.

Unless they're setting us up for some of the ridiculous humiliations.

Which could be.

Yeah, well, if they're sticking to that mindset, then again, why could they do it?

I mean, I don't understand.

I mean, it's just impossible.

In my view, that's not your choice.

The country behind the man is where he is, but the world is where he is.

The country is where the nation wants to be, not the government.

You've got to get some standards.

You've got to do well.

If you've got four years, you're going to have to do it.

You've got to do well.

We're not going to screw around, man.

Thank you.

But that's the hard thing to do in the third contract.

You'd never do that if you knew administration.

You'd go in the eighth week of your administration again, you know, five candidates before you tested them.

That's all we did together.

And it took us two weeks to convince people.

That was a damn defective thing.

It certainly helped us grow up.

We can't hold you up, but we've got to do it.

That was really nothing good to do.

They were waiting on us.

We could have done that anyway, but we had to establish our contract with John.

Well, I'm still struck by the fact that with all that traveling, they still have really touching gold in the way they have John and Kachana.

And he's got enough to be fixed on everything.

Mm-hmm.

They know that they offered June 15th to the 20th and didn't get it here till the 30th.

Why are you here?