{"conversationCode":"256-035","tapeNumber":256,"conversationNumber":35,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-256-035","startDateTime":"1971-06-13T16:56:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-13T17:28:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jun-1971","startTime":"12:56 PM","endDate":"13-Jun-1971","endTime":"1:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On June 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:56 pm and 1:28 pm. 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The conversation focused on managing timelines and expectations for institutional goals, specifically referencing the need to align internal processes for the following year. 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