{"conversationCode":"258-006","tapeNumber":258,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-258-006","startDateTime":"1971-06-14T18:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-14T18:58:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Jun-1971","startTime":"2:45 PM","endDate":"14-Jun-1971","endTime":"2:58 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)]; Haig, Alexander M., Jr.;","description":"On June 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:45 pm and 2:58 pm. 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Kissinger\n          -Thieu\n                -Need for discussions\n          -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew role\n          -Ellsworth F. Bunker role\n          -Message to Kissinger\n               -Visit to Vietnam\n                     -Outcome\n                     -Melvin R. Laird\n                     -Rogers role","filename":["258-006.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:05:02","tapeEnd":"00:08:53","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]","Haig, Alexander M., Jr."],"prevCode":"258-005","nextCode":"258-007","transcript":[{"start":5.83,"end":6.45,"text":"What's that?"},{"start":7.79,"end":12.8,"text":"Oh, I know, I'm caught."},{"start":12.82,"end":14.44,"text":"One thing that occurred to me is that"},{"start":15.96,"end":20.07,"text":"Uh, I think it's, uh, there's a problem that Rogers, uh, he is not as he wants to be, or, or so he can be."},{"start":20.09,"end":20.41,"text":"He can't."},{"start":20.48,"end":24.81,"text":"You know, it's almost as if he's fighting for the world, you know, internationally."},{"start":24.87,"end":27.25,"text":"But, you know, it's a trick of that, too."},{"start":27.61,"end":43.27,"text":"He's, he's, he's got stuff, you know, he's got, you know, he's got, you know, he's got that money, he's got a lot of money, he's got, you know, he's got, you know, he's got, you know, he's got, you know, he's got, you know, he's got, you know, he's got, you know, he's got, you know, he's got, you know, he's got, you know,"},{"start":47.6,"end":55.05,"text":"With regard to the shooting,"},{"start":74.53,"end":78.7,"text":"I think it's been run out."},{"start":87.79,"end":92.19,"text":"I think we ought to discuss this."},{"start":92.39,"end":97.52,"text":"I mean, my idea is that we told you there may be a difference."},{"start":97.82,"end":98.88,"text":"There may be a difference."},{"start":99.22,"end":101.86,"text":"But he's ahead of the picture."},{"start":101.88,"end":112.29,"text":"In fact, my political advice would be for him not to have too much of the American people around him."},{"start":112.31,"end":113.67,"text":"And still to go with Wagner and all."},{"start":116.69,"end":139.22,"text":"What you might do is, if I can do it over there, just go over there, and I've got to be in a room, and I'm going to be in a room, and I'm going to draw, and I'm going to be in a room, and I'm going to be in a room, and I'm going to be in a room, and I'm going to be in a room."},{"start":140.83,"end":145.03,"text":"He ought to consider really whether our interests are served by the Russian military."},{"start":145.11,"end":151,"text":"It would be possible that we should try to turn it around on the ground here in the federal area."},{"start":151.01,"end":155.44,"text":"That is probably what we don't know."},{"start":155.5,"end":159.12,"text":"There's a problem right now."},{"start":159.14,"end":162.98,"text":"They are going over there and coming out and saying nothing."},{"start":165.16,"end":165.38,"text":"Oh."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and General Alexander Haig met to discuss diplomatic strategies and the handling of the war in Vietnam, specifically focusing on the roles of Secretary of State William Rogers and National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger. The conversation touched upon the administration's relationship with South Vietnamese President Nguyen Van Thieu and the necessity of coordinated messaging from U.S. officials like Ellsworth Bunker and Vice President Spiro Agnew. They further evaluated the impact of Soviet military interests on American policy objectives and the internal management of administration communication regarding the conflict.","topics":["Vietnam War","Alexander Haig","William P. 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