{"conversationCode":"258-008","tapeNumber":258,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-258-008","startDateTime":"1971-06-14T23:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-14T23:19:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Jun-1971","startTime":"7:15 PM","endDate":"14-Jun-1971","endTime":"7:19 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On June 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:15 pm and 7:19 pm. 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Bunker’s role in negotiations\n               -William P. Rogers\n               -Vietnamese domestic politics\n                     -Bunker’s role\n\n     Pentagon Papers issue\n          -Role of administration personnel\n               -John N. Mitchell role\n                     -New York Times story\n                     -Action against the New York Times\n\n     Request for Kissinger’s presence\n\n     President’s forthcoming call to Mitchell","filename":["258-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:09:30","tapeEnd":"00:11:10","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"258-007","nextCode":"258-009","transcript":[{"start":4.58,"end":8.15,"text":"Are you finished there, or are you still talking to Ronnie?"},{"start":8.17,"end":8.73,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":8.79,"end":10.37,"text":"Are you going out of here, or are you doing away?"},{"start":10.39,"end":13.31,"text":"Yeah, you better go."},{"start":13.33,"end":13.77,"text":"You better go."},{"start":13.81,"end":16.21,"text":"It's nothing that I'm not."},{"start":16.23,"end":19.21,"text":"I always was fine."},{"start":19.23,"end":25.11,"text":"Did Higg talk to you a little about my, uh, the week coming up, or did he talk to Bucker about the..."},{"start":26.87,"end":29.21,"text":"One view is that at this point, if he's a hit, it might hurt him."},{"start":29.71,"end":32.05,"text":"And frankly, there's nothing in for us."},{"start":32.09,"end":33.67,"text":"There's not enough in for us."},{"start":33.71,"end":33.97,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":33.99,"end":43.46,"text":"I think you could just tell Bill that."},{"start":44.52,"end":57.67,"text":"So you're not, but also the whole idea of these, they're going on top of your publicity and so forth, is that you just want to discuss them."},{"start":57.69,"end":66.39,"text":"I can get all of our people to vote along."},{"start":67.16,"end":74.58,"text":"I think Petula's going to have to, in order to avoid believing the action, he's going to have to go to many times."},{"start":74.6,"end":76.36,"text":"Great."},{"start":76.38,"end":79.74,"text":"I'm going to put the times on notice, then, too."},{"start":79.76,"end":86.7,"text":"I understand they'll raise hell, freedom of the press, and all that, but, too..."},{"start":86.72,"end":87.46,"text":"I may not soon."},{"start":87.48,"end":91.58,"text":"Okay, well, I'll... You tend to take the same view."},{"start":93.24,"end":97.15,"text":"I'm sorry, why don't you drop over here and I've got a call for you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger discussed the administration's response to the New York Times' publication of the Pentagon Papers. Nixon expressed a firm intent to take legal action against the newspaper despite anticipated criticism regarding freedom of the press. 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