{"conversationCode":"258-040","tapeNumber":258,"conversationNumber":40,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-258-040","startDateTime":"1971-06-23T18:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-23T18:46:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Jun-1971","startTime":"2:45 PM","endDate":"23-Jun-1971","endTime":"2:46 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); DuPont, Pierre S.;","description":"On June 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Pierre S. DuPont met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:45 pm to 2:46 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 258-040 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 258-40\n\nDate: June 23, 1971\nTime: 2:45 pm - 2:46 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Pierre S. DuPont","filename":["258-040.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:01:25","tapeEnd":"01:02:40","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","DuPont, Pierre S."],"prevCode":"258-039","nextCode":"258-041","transcript":[{"start":4.66,"end":4.89,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":7.96,"end":8.38,"text":"Hello."},{"start":8.4,"end":25.21,"text":"I just wanted to tell you that in talking with some of our people in the leadership up there who attended the caucus a couple, or a few days ago, they spoke about how very effectively you spoke, and the resolution came up."},{"start":25.31,"end":28.12,"text":"And I just wanted to express my appreciation."},{"start":29.91,"end":33.07,"text":"It's hard to step up to these tough ones like that, and I appreciate it."},{"start":33.09,"end":35.15,"text":"I think at the end of it, it looked pretty good."},{"start":35.23,"end":36.09,"text":"And we're good."},{"start":37.11,"end":50.32,"text":"We're doing some things for people to follow up with."},{"start":50.36,"end":51.5,"text":"I think it's very good to see it."},{"start":51.52,"end":51.6,"text":"Sure."},{"start":51.62,"end":52.14,"text":"It's a lot of fun."},{"start":52.92,"end":55.52,"text":"Yeah, it did turn out to be."},{"start":55.54,"end":56.1,"text":"That was a good 20."},{"start":56.15,"end":57.2,"text":"Well, anyway, I appreciate it very much."},{"start":57.71,"end":57.87,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Pierre S. DuPont to express his gratitude for DuPont’s effective advocacy and support regarding a recent political resolution during a leadership caucus. The brief exchange served as an affirmation of loyalty, with Nixon acknowledging the difficulty of taking a firm stance on contentious issues. Both parties concluded the discussion by noting the successful outcome of the caucus and confirming that follow-up actions were already underway.","topics":["Political strategy","Caucus proceedings","Republican leadership","Party loyalty","Internal communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T12:11:55.429Z"},"topicSlugs":["political-strategy","caucus-proceedings","republican-leadership","party-loyalty","internal-communication"],"audioDurationSec":61,"audioFiles":[{"file":"258-040.mp3","bytes":2455317,"durationSec":61.25,"bitrate":320707,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.695Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/258-040.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/258-040","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/258/conversation-258-040","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}