{"conversationCode":"258-045","tapeNumber":258,"conversationNumber":45,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-258-045","startDateTime":"1971-06-23T19:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-23T19:18:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Jun-1971","startTime":"3:16 PM","endDate":"23-Jun-1971","endTime":"3:18 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Stennis, John C.;","description":"On June 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John C. Stennis met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:16 pm to 3:18 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 258-045 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 258-45\n\nDate: June 23, 1971\nTime: 3:16 pm - 3:18 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with John C. Stennis\n\n[See Conversation No. 5-145]","filename":["258-045.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:11:12","tapeEnd":"01:12:28","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Stennis, John C."],"prevCode":"258-044","nextCode":"258-046","transcript":[{"start":1.43,"end":9.58,"text":"John, I didn't want to bother you, but I don't want this day to go by without telling you I am really proud of the fight you've been putting up down there."},{"start":9.6,"end":11.76,"text":"And in the end, it's going to come out all right."},{"start":12.88,"end":22.08,"text":"I'm afraid, and the only thing I'm afraid of is that the whole plane scene is triggered by, let me say this, the sense that we're talking about now."},{"start":22.12,"end":24.14,"text":"I can assure you."},{"start":24.16,"end":26.47,"text":"I'm down to leave those results."},{"start":28.01,"end":34.2,"text":"Pretty mild, that's right."},{"start":36.96,"end":39.46,"text":"And we'll just go ahead and do what's right."},{"start":39.52,"end":40.86,"text":"In the end, we'll be judging."},{"start":41.98,"end":43.22,"text":"It's coming out."},{"start":43.28,"end":44.87,"text":"It's going to come out all right."},{"start":48.93,"end":51.55,"text":"Now, on these papers, you know, I agree with my leadership."},{"start":51.93,"end":60.4,"text":"I know we'll go back for your information, but I thought the chair was going to say it should be you."},{"start":60.44,"end":63.18,"text":"I mean, thank you for having so much commitment."},{"start":63.68,"end":70.46,"text":"The other one, he's a guy who's a judge, and I'm something that has to get my full price."},{"start":70.48,"end":71.58,"text":"Hey, good man, now, you don't feel okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Senator John C. Stennis to express his strong appreciation for the Senator's ongoing political efforts and steadfast commitment to their shared legislative agenda. The two men briefly discussed the necessity of staying the course on sensitive matters despite potential controversy, with Nixon offering encouragement for Stennis's current leadership role. This short, cordial exchange served primarily to reinforce political solidarity between the President and the Senator during a period of legislative pressure.","topics":["Congressional relations","Political strategy","John C. Stennis","Executive-Legislative cooperation"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T12:12:22.883Z"},"topicSlugs":["congressional-relations","political-strategy","john-c-stennis","executive-legislative-cooperation"],"audioDurationSec":77,"audioFiles":[{"file":"258-045.mp3","bytes":3071807,"durationSec":76.65,"bitrate":320599,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.006Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/258-045.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/258-045","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/258/conversation-258-045","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}