Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 259-007
Date: Monday, June 28, 1971 at 2:53 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/259-007

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[6:10] Uh, what had this, uh, luncheon Friday that we were having, this is the last one, included with Griswold?
[6:13] She's purple, but she doesn't need a chair for any decision.
[6:40] Hey, I haven't been working on things, so I was just going to ask you that.
[6:42] I'm going to ask you to take it off first and stop being cold.
[6:44] Of course.
[6:45] They've got a cold.
[6:46] It's cold.
[6:46] I'll see you real soon.
[6:47] Okay.
[6:58] No, I know that, but Alex is taking over on all the other people.
[7:05] What's the trouble?
[7:07] I think they're very poor.
[7:10] Maybe I was doing a poor job, but nobody said anything and it just doesn't land.
[7:18] I'm not doing anything.
[7:20] Which one's the real one?
[7:22] The last two or three.
[7:26] He did say he...
[7:31] The last two or three that have been, that they've had to send out telegrams, they get them so late, there's a call.
[7:59] That's the brand.
[8:01] Ah, the brand was the other one.
[8:03] It was set up very late.
[8:06] The brand was very late, too, with the next one.
[8:09] That's the most of them was put there.
[8:12] Well, that's another reason why we didn't agree to do it until the last one.
[8:15] And Memo's are gone, and just ignoring me completely.
[8:18] Well, they're not supposed to be there.
[8:20] If those two had all been set up, I think they've done it.
[8:23] Both brand and Somosilver put on the last one that we decided to add to it.
[8:29] They do what they do.
[8:31] They go all the way down to the country director.
[8:54] They go against all the rules that we've set up.
[8:56] So then when the next thing comes, the country director for the other thing is just livid.
[9:03] My roads here was a problem.
[9:05] They didn't have much.
[9:10] I said we could make points with him.
[9:13] That's right.
[9:14] They don't make any points with you.
[9:18] Well, I understand.
[9:18] There's no change in his control.
[9:20] Okay, well, then I can do what they were.
[9:23] He was now in charge.
[9:24] Only those two.
[9:25] Because if he is, then I don't have anything to do with him.
[9:29] Because I don't want to work with him.
[9:34] Okay, thank you, sir.
[9:40] There's no question about it.
[9:44] We've tried terribly hard to really scatter and take close to people and others and evaluate them against others.
[9:52] But if you just take a little and turn it in, you get some pretty bad results.
[9:57] It makes the wrong people.
[9:59] You've got to have the right kind of confidence with it.
[10:06] You've got to have...
[10:09] They've got to have an investigation weeks ahead because half of the thrill is in being able to tell all the facts that are coming and have the right word.
[10:20] Like this one, the last one.
[10:21] Oh, I realize that.
[10:22] These three are here.
[10:23] These three are here.
[36:40] What about somebody who's more into what you would think about if they were considering Leo Turn for some appointment?
[36:49] Would you say that?
[36:50] I think he's all right.
[36:51] I think he's all right.
[36:55] I think liberals and leftists and free world, yeah.
[36:59] He's tough.
[37:01] Yeah, he's tough.
[37:02] Yeah, he's tough.
[37:03] He's all right.
[37:08] He's all right.
[37:08] He's all right.
[37:09] He's all right.
[37:12] When I talked to the Annenberg when he was here, he didn't want to talk to me about Facebook.
[37:18] What's wrong with him?
[37:21] Well, because he was talking with me or with you, but he won't go through anybody else.
[37:25] Many people say things to people in heaven.
[37:29] What?
[37:30] They say they're not going to tell anybody else, but it gets them back out.
[37:34] Alright, alright.
[37:35] He can talk to you.
[37:36] Alright.
[37:39] John Howard sent you an encoded photo.
[37:45] He thinks it's absolutely fantastic.
[37:50] He isn't always going to do it.
[37:55] It's American discontent.
[37:57] The roots of American discontent are his sign itself, his sign itself.
[38:07] Sure, good.
[38:08] I'll just put it there.
[38:11] Okay.
[38:12] Good idea.
[38:12] I'll acknowledge it, but I'll just put it there.
[38:16] Yeah, sure.
[38:16] But he hasn't ever said no.
[38:18] No, no, no, no.
[38:21] I wanted you to know how much it meant.
[38:23] We sent a letter to his boy, who graduated from a Pilates or a pop-up, everything.
[38:29] And also, as the best, the most experienced military man that I've ever met, Earl, at our school.
[38:35] Thank you, sir.
[38:37] And our primary boss, too.
[38:41] Good.
[38:41] Thank you.
[38:47] I think we should order some more presidential ice cream.
[38:49] I've been getting one since the Gold Coast time.
[38:50] Do you like it?
[38:51] I guess so, yeah.
[38:53] It's a pretty good thing.
[42:41] He had also heard this Strokes, you know, from the Anaheim State, Strokes, Strokes, or anything.
[42:47] He had come to be put in public affairs council, I think.
[42:50] They all thought he was so good that they wanted to get his record and possibly put him on the air.
[42:56] But there's just never been anyone, and they had all kinds of experts.
[43:00] We've been pushing it, you know.
[43:02] Yeah.
[43:03] He said Larry Bryant came before him and better went down his route.
[43:09] He was so nice.
[43:10] And the droves was the hit of the whole thing.
[43:19] With his song, there's such great communication between the elements.
[43:25] He's not much to look at, I don't see him.
[43:27] Talk to, talk to, uh, to Nick more.
[43:30] Say, uh, tell Nick I wanted that, that I wanted, I wanted to report it to him.
[43:38] Yeah.
[43:39] Um.
[43:39] Is there anything that's somewhere out of his care, or?
[43:44] It's a benefit to also check on this.
[43:46] I hear you can check with me.
[43:48] I don't know if you can see things, but...
[43:53] She said, yes, she's awfully good at it, and I want you to look for something.
[43:58] I don't want you to ask Stacey, but tell Hayden that you're going to check in terms of this scene.
[44:11] for her going abroad.
[44:13] In other words, to represent the United States or something.
[44:15] She basically, though she's a hell of a lot better at representing the United States, you know what I mean?
[44:21] Well, and something to look at these inaugurations.
[44:24] He's fine, but I mean, she's the first lady.
[44:26] Of course she would do it in an inauguration.
[44:29] You know, for understanding it.
[44:30] That's right, because there's nothing that happens at any point.
[44:35] Inauguration.
[44:36] There now.
[44:37] Yes, from all the cameras.
[44:39] Anything is because... You can do it on Sunday, but I mean, suppose it's an anniversary of some sort, but I can't go to it.
[44:44] Yeah.
[44:47] Any special... She's awfully hard to get to know, you know, we haven't tried to kick her into going to Peru, which we've been talking about ever since.
[44:54] I know.
[44:54] But it was like a false success.
[44:56] Yeah.
[44:57] But she needs to do another one now.
[45:01] I'm sorry about this.
[45:01] You didn't know whether you could do it or someone else could do it.
[45:05] Here's the thing, anyone has really, and even with all this paper...
[45:08] has given a speech or a talk or gotten an invitation for a young kid, like even his son, who's 17 or 18, saying, why are we in Vietnam?
[45:18] How did we get there?
[45:21] So that people can answer those questions.
[45:24] Who would I give that to?
[45:25] Don't worry about it.
[45:31] That way it gets to the 18-year-old.
[45:34] They understand what it's all about.
[45:38] We're at a very difficult stage there because that battle, even the fact that all of those
[45:46] got us in, are now criticized for getting in.
[45:51] I know.
[45:51] Except for me, who did get in.
[45:53] I had stood up on it and, like my November 13th cast, if they want to go back and read that, that tells why you're in Vietnam.
[46:01] And so forth and so on.
[46:04] Could I ask, do you think Pat Buchanan could pull together something?
[46:07] Pat Buchanan's the best one to do it.
[46:10] Well, he just wants it so people can, like he says, I can't even talk to my son and talk a lot with him.
[46:21] I know.
[46:21] It's very complicated.
[46:23] People forgot.
[46:31] The baby gave me a technique up in the woods.
[46:34] That's Wolpert's interiors or something that just, it was a funny, I'm joking to you all, but people wanted to try to make it nice.
[46:42] Oh, yeah.
[46:42] He said sometimes like the baby.
[46:45] Yeah, the baby times for you.
[46:47] Yeah, just sometimes I want to see him.
[46:50] Wolpert.
[46:51] He really is just a big ass for him.
[46:53] Oh, God.
[46:54] You know, really, it's not Wolpert.
[46:57] He thought he'd take me down.
[46:59] Yeah, Wolpert.
[46:59] Yeah.
[47:00] He's the guy we always were going to throw rocks with when we used ginseng to protect the kids against the cold.
[47:11] Yeah.
[47:11] So this guy stole the papers and chewed.
[47:17] Oh, shit.
[47:19] It's just bad.
[47:21] It's just bad.
[47:22] Patty lives back here.
[47:24] She's doing one great job of speaking up.
[47:27] Good.
[47:27] Good.
[47:28] And, uh...
[47:30] I also told the people out there, we're driving back right into certain towns that there's, you know, there's ways in China that Richard Nixon won the nomination.
[47:39] It's his, and they ought to be backing him.
[47:42] It was very well put.
[47:44] It was nice of you guys to do it.
[47:46] I don't know if you guys can see it, but the New York New York News did a nice little, uh, that on, you know, the kids, and then a whole page.
[47:59] It's like you might want to take the palm of it.
[48:03] You might want to touch it.
[48:05] You set it up.
[48:06] You set it up.
[48:06] You take the third one.
[48:07] Yeah, when I was up for radio, it was a girl's funeral.
[48:17] That's how I was taking it.
[48:18] That was very good.
[50:34] I got a call.
[50:36] I mean, I heard it to, uh...
[50:41] Connie, I have a rather St. John's call.
[50:44] Someone wants Tricia to do a... Mary something or other.
[50:51] She is so good.
[50:52] Tell her.
[50:52] Tell her to do it.
[50:54] She should do this.
[50:57] Don't ask Pat now.
[50:59] Pat should have nothing to do with it.
[51:01] You would tell Tricia.
[51:02] I want her to do it.
[51:04] I want her to stay in the public eye.
[51:08] That's why she'll come down.