{"conversationCode":"260-005","tapeNumber":260,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-260-005","startDateTime":"1971-07-02T20:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-07-02T20:12:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Jul-1971","startTime":"4:08 PM","endDate":"2-Jul-1971","endTime":"4:12 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On July 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:08 pm to 4:12 pm. 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