{"conversationCode":"260-018","tapeNumber":260,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-260-018","startDateTime":"1971-07-02T21:26:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-07-02T21:33:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Jul-1971","startTime":"5:26 PM","endDate":"2-Jul-1971","endTime":"5:33 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Andrews, John K., Jr.;","description":"On July 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John K. Andrews, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:26 pm to 5:33 pm. 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good."},{"start":7203.73,"end":7204.53,"text":"I want, I want it left."},{"start":7204.55,"end":7205.85,"text":"I want it left pretty much in the same temple."},{"start":7205.87,"end":7208.25,"text":"Well, there is, over in Polish, you may find some of the other churches you use."},{"start":7224.29,"end":7230.47,"text":"Oh, one thing, if I wanted to, I'd like to, what I am, there's a blue grant, and I have something that's good in my mind, which is going to take me to the factory, and say, we don't have so much."},{"start":7230.49,"end":7231.35,"text":"We're not going to put this out there."},{"start":7231.39,"end":7232.01,"text":"That's why I make it up."},{"start":7232.03,"end":7232.25,"text":"I do a lot."},{"start":7232.27,"end":7232.93,"text":"I don't know if you've seen it."},{"start":7232.95,"end":7233.79,"text":"I don't know if you've seen it."},{"start":7252.94,"end":7253.74,"text":"Yes, which everyone would love to see."},{"start":7253.76,"end":7255.04,"text":"And I also came up with a child of 18 years old out of Victoria."},{"start":7255.06,"end":7255.66,"text":"I had to go to high school."},{"start":7270.12,"end":7270.14,"text":"."},{"start":7270.16,"end":7270.18,"text":"."},{"start":7270.2,"end":7270.22,"text":"."},{"start":7270.24,"end":7270.26,"text":"."},{"start":7297.09,"end":7303.13,"text":"I tried all kinds of people, all kinds of people, all kinds of people, all kinds of people, all kinds of people, all kinds of people, all kinds of people, all kinds of people, all kinds of people, all kinds of people, all kinds of people, all kinds of people, all kinds of people,"},{"start":7324.96,"end":7332.17,"text":"Oh, one thing I want to do, I like to, what I am, there's blue ground, and I have something that's good in my mind, which is exactly what I said."},{"start":7332.23,"end":7333.25,"text":"We don't have so much."},{"start":7333.27,"end":7334.95,"text":"We're not going to put this on for Christ's sake."},{"start":7335.07,"end":7336.49,"text":"We're not going to put this on for Christ's sake."},{"start":7336.55,"end":7337.51,"text":"That's why I make it up."},{"start":7337.61,"end":7337.99,"text":"I do a lot."},{"start":7338.01,"end":7338.37,"text":"I do a lot."},{"start":7338.39,"end":7338.79,"text":"I do a lot."},{"start":7338.81,"end":7339.13,"text":"I do a lot."},{"start":7353.65,"end":7355.09,"text":"Yes, which everyone could well have been happy to see."},{"start":7355.11,"end":7356.69,"text":"And I also ended up having this child of an 18-year-old out of Victoria."},{"start":7356.71,"end":7357.34,"text":"I had to go to high 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way."},{"start":7434.8,"end":7437.06,"text":"See, the thing about that is that they can't just leave it and call it eternal people."},{"start":7437.08,"end":7437.52,"text":"I know that's wrong."},{"start":7460.99,"end":7468.12,"text":"or we're not talking to the Christian people, we're talking to the television people, we're talking to the country people, they haven't heard it or they haven't forgotten it."},{"start":7468.18,"end":7472.58,"text":"And so, and if you've got a good line, you've got to keep repeating it so that people, you know, might get their conscience right."},{"start":7472.6,"end":7473.7,"text":"You'll find that something will work."},{"start":7488.38,"end":7489.96,"text":"I'm going to show you how to work on that."},{"start":7490.06,"end":7491.2,"text":"All right, let's see what time it is now."},{"start":7491.3,"end":7491.68,"text":"All right, ready?"},{"start":7491.7,"end":7492.84,"text":"All right, I'm out here, let's have a look."},{"start":7492.86,"end":7495.2,"text":"Five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29,"},{"start":7518,"end":7519.58,"text":"You'll see what I'm trying to get at."},{"start":7536.26,"end":7539.86,"text":"Well, I'll be using the text that I made this morning to read the text that I wrote a couple of days ago."},{"start":7539.88,"end":7540.58,"text":"It will be in my own playbook."},{"start":7540.6,"end":7541.42,"text":"It will be in my own collection."},{"start":7541.44,"end":7542.21,"text":"It will be in my own collection."},{"start":7563.89,"end":7566.63,"text":"I really don't think there's too much to say."},{"start":7567.27,"end":7575.47,"text":"The only real reason for this, I declare, is a great one, a prologue, in which I, as you said, I declare that this would be my second leader."},{"start":7575.55,"end":7581.78,"text":"And so I, what is different here is that I wrote, as you remember, I said, I don't want 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