On July 1, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:30 pm to 6:37 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 261-045 of the White House Tapes.
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All right.
Jack, I wanted to be sure that you got the message from Alderman with regard to making this month's casualty figures.
I think it's the lowest month in probably six years.
Yeah, did you get that out?
Putting it in terms of a month, you see, you've got 19, 25, 25, 21 now.
That's a, in other words, the casualties this month are less than they were in a week a year ago, you see.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean, I'm sure that worked well.
That's a very, but it's a really very significant job.
Everything that I predicted has happened here.
Now, I think with John, we've talked to John, if this is something that you want to re-progress, Scali understands this, you see.
Yeah.
Well, good.
Is there a meeting over yet?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think I should do that.
I think that's wrong.
I think that's wrong.
Oh, I know the argument is what?
So that we aren't in the possession of being repressive.
That's defensive.
I don't want to be defensive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's the purpose of it?
How does Scali feel?
Because he's got that judgment.
Yeah, well.
Well, he's, yeah.
Well, you tell him.
I'm going to have to talk about it in the future, but the main thing I want him to know about this thing here.
How about Riders?
Have you got anything?
Go ahead.
Oh, he did.
Today?
Sure.
Well, good.
Now, how about your call to build by Johnson?
Johnson really ought to come out.
He's got his place in history involved here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mad at me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The injunctions were sick.
Okay.
I would have done the same thing, but you see, Chuck, we can cross that bridge.
No, we've done it.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, I know.
He says, yeah.
But let me get in.
All right.
He should speak up.
And he'll do well if it'll be done.
He's got a hell of a lot to say, and it'll be big.
You know, look, you ought to call him back and say, look,
I don't know if it's the place of history or anything else.
But there's nothing like it sending 50 million people a note.
You should speak up only on prime time.
You should say, look, they've been banned and so forth and so on.
You should ask for prime time television.
Go on prime time television.
Nine o'clock, get 50 million people.
State the case, and he'll be convincing.
And it'll sell.
It's not making a copy of this book.
You know what I mean?
Okay.
Bye.
But the point is that I think that's a jump in interest to do that.
I do have to say this is a biased thing, it's wrong.
I'm going to be grossly wrong tonight.
This could be quite temporary, how does it work?
Oh boy, build it up, be rough with it.
But this is grossly smart, he went, he's well, he's being amped up, he's doing well.
Sure.
Sure.
Good.
Good.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, Johnson always .
Sure.
Well, there is a CVS worker.
Well, of course, this may, of course, I mean, Canada would argue that this is a group we have to fund because the network is going wild with putting on specials and everything else.
But, you know, I'm not sure either.
They may be overfunding it.
I think they're making a good guy.
Chuck Kennedy's in the Scott and Johnson's.
I don't think we're in it at all, are we?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
I'm going to wait.
I'm going to hold fire.
I don't worry.
I do have a little stinging.
Midwest, I don't have to make a statement for them to approve anything.