Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 261-045
Date: Thursday, July 1, 1971 at 6:30 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/261-045

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[4:58:42] Chuck, I want to be sure that you got the message from all of them with regard to making this month's casualty figures.
[4:58:50] I think it's the lowest month in probably six years.
[4:58:55] Yeah.
[4:58:56] Did you get that out?
[4:58:57] Putting it in in terms of a month, you see, you've got 19, 25, 25, 21 now.
[4:59:03] In other words, the casualties this month are less than they were in a week a year ago, you see.
[4:59:13] Yeah.
[4:59:14] Yeah.
[4:59:14] But I mean, I think we'll be able to be sure that that works well.
[4:59:20] See if it's going to work.
[4:59:24] That's a very, but it's a really very significant job.
[4:59:27] Everything that I predicted is happening here.
[4:59:35] Now, I think with John, we've talked to John about this or something, I think.
[4:59:41] He'll have to reprogram it.
[4:59:50] Scali understands this, you see.
[4:59:52] Is there a meeting over yet?
[4:59:54] Still at it?
[4:59:54] Yeah.
[4:59:55] Yeah.
[4:59:57] Yeah.
[5:00:08] I don't think I should do that.
[5:00:11] I think that's wrong.
[5:00:17] I think that's wrong.
[5:00:17] Oh, I know the argument.
[5:00:19] So we aren't in the possession of being repressive.
[5:00:21] That's defensive.
[5:00:22] I don't want to be defensive.
[5:00:23] Yeah.
[5:00:24] Yeah.
[5:00:27] What's the purpose of it?
[5:00:55] How does Skelly feel, because he's got the insurance?
[5:01:04] Yeah, well.
[5:01:04] Well, he's, yeah.
[5:01:05] Well, you tell him.
[5:01:06] I'm going to have to talk to him in the future, but the main thing I want him to know about this thing here.
[5:01:12] How about Riders?
[5:01:12] Have we got him?
[5:01:23] Go ahead.
[5:01:23] Oh, he did?
[5:01:25] Today?
[5:01:30] Sure.
[5:01:30] Well now, how about you call the bill by Johnson?
[5:01:37] Johnson really ought to come out.
[5:01:39] He's got his place in history involved here.
[5:02:12] Yeah.
[5:02:12] Yeah.
[5:02:16] Mad at me?
[5:02:36] Yeah.
[5:02:36] Yeah.
[5:02:38] The injunction was to say?
[5:02:54] Okay.
[5:02:55] I would have the same thing, but you see, Chuck, we can cross that bridge.
[5:02:58] No, we've done it.
[5:03:01] Okay.
[5:03:23] Oh, yeah, I know.
[5:03:25] He says, yeah.
[5:03:26] But, let me get in.
[5:03:26] All right.
[5:03:34] He should speak up.
[5:03:35] And he'll do well if it'll be done.
[5:03:40] He's got a hell of a lot to say, and it'll be big.
[5:03:42] You know, look, you ought to call him back next year for it.
[5:03:48] I don't know if it's a place in history or anything else.
[5:03:52] But there's nothing like it, sending 50 million people a note.
[5:03:54] You should speak up only on prime time.
[5:03:57] You should say, look, they've been banned and so forth and so on.
[5:04:00] You should ask for prime time television.
[5:04:02] Go on prime time television.
[5:04:04] 9 o'clock, get 50 million people.
[5:04:06] State the case, and he'll be convincing.
[5:04:09] And it'll sell.
[5:04:09] It's an amazing copy of this book.
[5:04:12] See what I mean?
[5:04:13] OK?
[5:04:15] Bye.
[5:04:17] But the point is that I think that's a jump in interest to do that.
[5:04:19] And just to say this is a biased thing, it's wrong, one of the across are wrong tonight.
[5:04:24] This would be quite temporary, how does it work?
[5:04:30] Oh boy, build it up, figure out what to do.
[5:04:35] But this is where I'll be smart and when he's well, he's being handled so well.
[5:05:04] Sure.
[5:05:04] Sure.
[5:05:04] Good.
[5:05:05] Okay.
[5:05:05] Okay.
[5:05:09] Yeah.
[5:05:10] Well, Johnson always .
[5:05:13] Sure.
[5:05:13] Well, there is a CVS worker.
[5:05:33] Well, of course, this may, of course, I mean, Canada would argue that this proves we have fun because the network is going wild with putting on specials and everything else.
[5:05:43] But, you know, I'm not sure either.
[5:05:45] They may be overfunding.
[5:05:46] I think they're, I think they're making, look, good God, Chuck Kennedy's in this goddamn thing.
[5:05:54] Johnson's in this.
[5:05:55] I don't think we're in it at all, are we?
[5:05:57] Yeah.
[5:06:10] Yeah, that's right.
[5:06:16] I'm going to wait.
[5:06:18] I'm going to hold fire.
[5:06:19] I don't worry.
[5:06:20] I do have a little stinging.
[5:06:25] Midwest, I don't have to make a statement for them to approve anything.
[5:07:05] Yeah.
[5:07:05] Yeah.
[5:07:05] I can probably do, um... Somebody hold a pyramid on your face.
[5:07:07] Wow.
[5:07:36] Get the, you know, a fellow like me and the rest of the men.
[5:07:38] I hope they get certain appointments.
[5:07:42] They must be on our side, aren't they?
[5:07:57] John, how many?
[5:08:03] Oh, yeah.
[5:08:03] Great.
[5:08:05] No, but Texas is a hell of a big state.
[5:08:09] And not just Southern, it's Western.
[5:08:10] Well that then, now you've got that all at once all over again.
[5:08:18] Well, who?
[5:08:18] Couldn't, that's good.
[5:08:23] He's not the guy to give you a chance to say he couldn't.
[5:08:38] Well, actually, there is a drop, Johnson.
[5:08:43] It may go up a little in the summer, but that's all right.
[5:09:00] And we're getting out of the war.
[5:09:01] How did you get that?
[5:09:04] OK, well, let me know about why Johnson had it.
[5:09:12] Okay.