{"conversationCode":"261-052","tapeNumber":261,"conversationNumber":52,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-261-052","startDateTime":"1971-07-02T20:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-07-02T20:08:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Jul-1971","startTime":"4:02 PM","endDate":"2-Jul-1971","endTime":"4:08 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Andrews, John K., Jr.;","description":"On July 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John K. Andrews, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:02 pm and 4:08 pm. 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Price, Jr.\n                -Cynthia Frink\n                      -High School valedictory address\n                      -Manchester, New Hampshire\n           -Reference to “John Brown’s Body”\n\n               -Test of poem\n          -Length\n          -Ronald L. Ziegler\n               -Possible statement\n\nRecording was cut off at an unknown time before 4:08 pm","filename":["261-052-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"06:15:48","tapeEnd":"06:28:55","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Andrews, John K., Jr."],"prevCode":"261-051","nextCode":"262-001","tapeTranscriptFile":"261a.mp3,261b.mp3,261c.mp3,261d.mp3","transcript":[{"start":22970.79,"end":22977.55,"text":"I had put five goals in five years, but Ray mentioned we don't want to get tangled up with the six goals."},{"start":23015.47,"end":23016.51,"text":"Strike H5."},{"start":23017.47,"end":23017.65,"text":"True."},{"start":23017.89,"end":23018.55,"text":"Strike H5."},{"start":23086.96,"end":23087.8,"text":"The bottom of page six."},{"start":23087.82,"end":23098.9,"text":"I agree with that in two sentences."},{"start":23098.94,"end":23102.83,"text":"We see this and it's making us girls in the right period."},{"start":23103.29,"end":23107.81,"text":"We see it in other things, man."},{"start":23107.91,"end":23112.35,"text":"I think it would be easier to see it in other things."},{"start":23124.66,"end":23127.36,"text":"and the flag free, that made me remind myself."},{"start":23127.4,"end":23134.04,"text":"That made me remind myself again."},{"start":23135.42,"end":23145.03,"text":"And then again, that made me remind myself again and again and again."},{"start":23145.09,"end":23153.17,"text":"Reminds me that anyone, that any American,"},{"start":23153.98,"end":23154.28,"text":"I did."},{"start":23154.3,"end":23157.44,"text":"I did sign the petition."},{"start":23157.46,"end":23164.02,"text":"But I don't know what I said that line."},{"start":23164.06,"end":23172.13,"text":"That painting reminds us that many Americans make use of it."},{"start":23172.17,"end":23172.27,"text":"No."},{"start":23172.29,"end":23178.09,"text":"I'll put it there just to answer the message that I wanted to give to many Americans."},{"start":23178.99,"end":23182.03,"text":"There's many Americans who did come to the assignment."},{"start":23182.05,"end":23182.73,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":23191.7,"end":23193.74,"text":"I wait for the connection."},{"start":23193.76,"end":23194.8,"text":"Take that out."},{"start":23195.84,"end":23201.88,"text":"I shorten that down."},{"start":23201.9,"end":23203.66,"text":"Can I send to your friend?"},{"start":23218.54,"end":23220.11,"text":"Yes sir?"},{"start":23249.08,"end":23257.81,"text":"I don't mind having a match in the air for the next one."},{"start":23257.83,"end":23259.19,"text":"I don't know, I don't like the pants you've got."},{"start":23259.21,"end":23267.36,"text":"It's too, uh... Maybe just particularize the team up."},{"start":23267.38,"end":23269.14,"text":"Yeah, well, I don't like the pants you've got."},{"start":23269.16,"end":23269.78,"text":"I've never seen it."},{"start":23269.82,"end":23270.38,"text":"It's awesome."},{"start":23270.44,"end":23271.76,"text":"You know what I mean?"},{"start":23272.26,"end":23274.86,"text":"That's the best thing I've ever heard in high school."},{"start":23280.44,"end":23283.55,"text":"You wanted to do that high school graduation?"},{"start":23283.59,"end":23287.99,"text":"I did that high school."},{"start":23288.01,"end":23294.68,"text":"The high school students."},{"start":23294.74,"end":23297.26,"text":"Follow the trail of your friends and act the spirit."},{"start":23324.65,"end":23328.01,"text":"I think that the John Brown thing has come too much in terms of who's going to come across."},{"start":23328.07,"end":23340.95,"text":"It has to be a little bit, you know, you have to tell the story a little more."},{"start":23349.12,"end":23354.07,"text":"In fact, I wouldn't say we might remember one other story."},{"start":23354.29,"end":23367.22,"text":"I could start off and tell a story at the end, as I did in that speech when I said, 100 years ago,"},{"start":23370.13,"end":23372.88,"text":"Do you have the text for that?"},{"start":23372.9,"end":23374.9,"text":"I have it here."},{"start":23374.92,"end":23375.78,"text":"I have rewritten this a little longer."},{"start":23375.8,"end":23377.28,"text":"I mean, I rewrite rather than use J.C.'s text."},{"start":23377.32,"end":23383.04,"text":"They have to be forwarded to the store."},{"start":23398.25,"end":23404.56,"text":"I'll start here."},{"start":23432.48,"end":23443.15,"text":"I like this, and I want to get this in."},{"start":23443.19,"end":23443.87,"text":"Let's say, let us love America."},{"start":23445.25,"end":23456.2,"text":"Not because she was rich, not because she was strong, but let us love America."},{"start":23456.22,"end":23460.49,"text":"So you put that in, and then put that in right after that experience, those words."},{"start":23460.51,"end":23461.89,"text":"Let us see, and then say, let us love America."},{"start":23465.08,"end":23481.48,"text":"Let us know if an octopush is breaking, if an octopush is gone, if an American is breaking, and if an American is breaking."},{"start":23481.62,"end":23481.76,"text":"Okay."},{"start":23481.8,"end":23481.94,"text":"Okay."},{"start":23481.96,"end":23482.2,"text":"Okay."},{"start":23482.3,"end":23482.9,"text":"I'll fix this later."},{"start":23590.49,"end":23592.17,"text":"So the way I would have it closed would be like this."},{"start":23592.19,"end":23593.54,"text":"Let us love America."},{"start":23593.58,"end":23594.76,"text":"Let us love America."},{"start":23594.78,"end":23606.08,"text":"110 years ago, one of the most tragic events in this nation's history got brought to us by a real crime."},{"start":23606.34,"end":23608.56,"text":"A crime that was tried against us."},{"start":23611.13,"end":23614.17,"text":"John Robinson wrote a book called The Science of Humanism."},{"start":23614.23,"end":23615.41,"text":"He wrote it in 1997."},{"start":23615.51,"end":23618.91,"text":"I think it's in the middle of the year or so."},{"start":23618.95,"end":23626.64,"text":"John Robinson said that just before he tried to work on this thing."},{"start":23626.66,"end":23636.61,"text":"And we today, as a business community, as a generation, as a generation, as a generation, as a generation,"},{"start":23644.47,"end":23654.81,"text":"It probably takes a little too much for granted as much to make sure of it down."},{"start":23661.84,"end":23662.44,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":23662.48,"end":23664.74,"text":"You said you're 1,500 words."},{"start":23664.76,"end":23666.4,"text":"I think a little over, really."},{"start":23691.2,"end":23694.24,"text":"I just tried the words to pay honor."},{"start":23694.36,"end":23698.12,"text":"I just tried to work on it."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":22960,"end":23695,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John K. Andrews, Jr. reviewed a draft of a forthcoming presidential speech, focusing on refining its thematic content and tone. The discussion involved editing specific phrasing, removing confusing references to a constitutional amendment, and evaluating the inclusion of a high school valedictory address anecdote. 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