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labor boys over to loosen up on delivering that money earlier.

Well, yeah, it came out that they were going to wait until appropriation was finalized before they notified the cities and so on.

But they can start now.

That's right.

And that would put some pressure on the appropriations group.

So it all fit together.

We gave them a signal off of California and worked out a formula.

Things can't move faster if they just anticipate they've got the money now.

So the moment the two comes through, it goes.

You know, the government just moves too slowly.

As I said, I already think it is better not to.

So I said, they wanted to have a bunch of formulas.

When I got into it, I couldn't give you any good answers on this.

I didn't know, but when we got into it, I discovered that they wanted to have a formula for everything, so they didn't have to make any decisions.

And I said, you know, as much of it as possible would be distributed without a formula.

And put it out on a list of key states and so forth.

It was good that it came up.

So we've got some appropriation for Congress.

I think the heat now is recessed.

The heat should go on if you've got three weeks before you recess.

The heat is appropriation before you recess.

Is that where you're going to have them up in the air?

Well, Bankon is a key to us.

And we don't get what we're paying for.

We do not have an amount.

And so we will do that, and we will end running him by going to the cities and saying, this is how this is going to work, and you're going to get this money, and it's up to Congress to get it to you soon.

Maybe I should just call them.

That would be a bad idea.

I'll send you a memo with a little background on that.

Thank you.

First of all, before you go to get something in the summer, the city might blow up in the morning.

Correct.

Well, how much is it going to go to Texas?

Is that the second point of emphasis?

Part of the matter here?

Yeah.

The city's going to California versus Texas, number two.

Distribution.

I'm not going to lie.

I don't know.

Ohio, New Jersey are ranked number three.

Illinois, Florida, and Indiana.

No, something else.

New Jersey, I guess.

But Illinois is six, Illinois is nine.

Cal?

How about Pennsylvania?

That's probably the priority list.

It's about number ten or something.

Basically, it's still in the top four.

But I mean, it's unemployment problem is not as great.

Yes.

We have a ranking.

I'm sorry to break it, but we have a ranking of unemployment areas.

There are pockets, there are pocket sales, but I mean, state-wide.

Now, you see, most of this is done on a localized basis.

Zero in on the localities.

There's 250 million of this that goes only to areas with 6% of the farmland or more.

How do you find those protections?

No, not very many.

Not very many, but you see, we've jiggered the farmland a little.

There are three different categories.

There's a certain category that has to go by formula, but we can devise the formula.

There's a certain amount that goes to six percent areas, and then there's 20 percent total discretionary.

And the latter is all going to California.

The formula, we jittered around with four different formula approaches and picked out the one that benefits California first, Texas second.

And then the others on that list.

And then we've got the 6% money, which is also totally discretionary.

The only condition being 60%.

You can sure find a hell of a lot of that in California, I'm sure.

County Garden Grove, Santa Ana, places like that.

I don't think the Congress gave us this much latitude.

It's extraordinary.

I think the budget would be terrible.

This is the first time I ever remember when we had that much latitude to spray the mine.

I'm going to try to waste my time and waste it out of the way.

All right.

So we have to move it.

There we go.

I think you're going to find the, uh, every political figure out of it.

If we grab an odd course with my lawyers, we won't control it totally.

Uh, it could happen, of course, we will.

The real dangerous one is that goddamn Japanese delegation that's coming.

We have Kennedy and Fulbright Center for the United States of America.

They've got, I'm supposed to go to Chicago for AMRs and all that great stuff.

And they'll get one hell of a play.

Man, Fulbright and Kennedy.

Those guys go waltzing in.

I mean, they go waltzing into China.

They don't ever threaten us no more.

So you don't have to press in, no, no.

So I can't do it.

I'm sure I wouldn't try.

I'm worried.

I'm trying.

I don't know.

putting a very heavy limitation on Chinese indicators that they're coming up to.

What I was thinking was if Henry met with them before they went, so that successive future negotiations around their shoulders, he'd come out afterwards and make unfortunate statements.

And then any collapse of the negotiations or lack of success might very well be your responsibility.

Well, the problem for me is that you want to pay for it.

You want to pay for it.

You may recall that you made money with your job before, and so now you're fighting for it.

So, in other words, I'm just concerned about things that we can't control.

I mean, also, you know, we can't take too high of a price.

We can't take too high of a price.

You know, I'm just concerned about things that we can't control.

It's a reasonable request that they let some in, that they balance it between the two political parties or something like that, so that they can achieve with the currency.

I don't think it's pretty good idea.

I mean, my view is that that's not going to make a lot of money for people.

I don't think, in regards to that you have a lot of people who are Republicans that you don't mind, who aren't active in your trade.

That's Cranston.

By a Democrat?

Yeah.

Cranston, Fulbright, Kennedy.

It's all black guys, too.

Yeah.

As a team, I've requested a few out of them.

I've had it for four years.

That's the part of it.

It's not black.

It's sort of black and brown.

Black and brown, you can't see it.

It looks brown.

They can't go.

Sure.

Excuse me.

Is it after your visit to your brother?

I think so.

The Chinese might have seen that.

The Chinese might have seen it.

Well, they see it the other way.

They see it on the side.

I'm just thinking more in terms of sort of the Admiral Perry of Japan kind of thing.

That's another thing.

It has to be covered.

Covered by a bunch of public transportation centers going home.

All four of them.

And just, you know, just go out to the park.

The sky is under absolute normal conditions now.

I am in pain.

Right now, the lives of me, the massive story, it's true.

The one we already had, right, the other month, the Admiral heard about that.

If you'd be happy to check, the Admiral knows, now the President knows, you know, and we opened the way, and made it possible for us to go in, of course, if we had to do it.

So, of course, we'll report travel and trade again, and we'll tell you all about it a lot of days ago.

It's Friday night, Bob the Bobcat.

The problem I have is that I don't have the opportunity to do it directly.

Probably would be a good idea for John to go over it with Anthony and Bruce.

It's been a very big problem for me to do this.

We haven't really actually received service in 2004 when they had a letter on it.

And we have a lot of events that we do in place at the same time that they gave the advice and that's what we're doing.

I heard Bill Sampson saying, I'm a boy, and I'm going to go out and drink Sampson's.

John Sampson, he's perfect.

He's so, so good.

I'm going to go out and drink Sampson's.

I'm going to go out and drink

But I try to raise that in at the point.

Speaking of which, Dr. Bill, what do you think?

I agree.

I thought this was true at the Russian summit.

What about the art of it?

We've got two of the two, we've got one of the two, we've got one of the two.

So, we're moving to my brother's door.

So, I did not see you in the living room so far on this one.

So, are you still going after him?

Well, I'm a little tired.

So, here we go.

We have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have,

It's better than making it clear, oh yes, you have to stay the other guests there.

If you're going to move that way, then you're acting the same as this.

You've got to try and keep going.

We've got 411 and 411.

The question is going to be, does the president direct to Senator Kennedy when the time comes?

We can't say that.

Your government has no detection.

That guy's going away.

He's hanging out there on the beach in the center of the canyon.

He's going to go see a different big city.

Yeah, he's landing.

He'll have the yellow river.

He'll have some time.

I'm going to watch your mouth for the end.

We just have to worry about the conference.

One point that I think is a lot of inspiration on me, and I know it's distinguished, is the fact that any summary that I participate in, from the jazz, the song, or the idea that there's a good background

Not just because of the Chinese, but because of the man, again.

That it isn't.

That it is a black rope development.

It's my God, it's an artist, it's my work, and he's going to be in a job that's rocking around.

That's what we have here.

It's a man, it's a woman, it's a woman.

It's not a human at all, like some of you.

And I think that's a very strong point to make, that this isn't going to be there.

In some way, like I talked to the leaders this morning, that I'm not going there to see all the rise and fall of the game, you know, and all that sort of thing.

I thought, well, what I was thinking, I was just thinking about a lot of column speculations in the summary.

First, it's the fact that I've got a prepared man, and second, I have a lot tougher man.

Okay.

Which is true.

Difficulty with all the nurses before they come in.

requirement of suction.

We've got the function at the side that we were just asked, but it's not really a function.

It's not really a function.

We're focusing it on, let's get it faster because they don't want to get it.

I'm not going to speak to the language that I'm using.

I don't think it's going to be an awful nice job.

I mean, it's not a nice job.

It's not a tough job.

And it's just not my way.

It's not actually my way.

I mean, I'm not going to buy it.

Or if it hurts me, I'm not going to buy it.

It's cold steel, which is what it is.

I spent about two hours or four hours long on this station.

I would spend days studying all about it and see that you can try this.

So you don't go for the bull.

So it's not impressive that we Americans are trying, I guess, because of our, certainly, our, we've learned, you know, the pale Carnegie stuff, and we've learned so much.

We've learned so much.

That's true, but everybody in the Czech Republic, and in the whole world, have to be conscious of where you're coming from.

So we've got to think about anybody who's building is going to have to do it themselves and it's going to be something more than just everybody else.

that deliver, right?

Now, they're just there, they're panning after you.

And I think that's the, I think that's the one thing that I think is going on, too.

I just have to look at the piece and see if it's going to carry over.

Did the, you know, we, we don't report following that.

We do that.

Did Henry tell you?

Oh, gosh, he must be really up the wall.

I said, what should I say about it?

I said, well, it isn't true.

I mean, we've done everything you can for Roger.

Roger was never in the Lincoln room.

That is, we really, I don't think he's ever been there for a talk.

And I just said, and this is something that Henry's, he does well, and he's got to say this was a presidential initiative.

The president had been totally charged throughout.

The president prepared the positions.

I don't think the state of trial, Marsha Green has already put out a story.

The architect in this whole house should have never got that thing to do with it.

I don't know anything about it.

I was surprised when he was announced.

And, uh, in that case, it had to be a little hard for people, really.

I don't know quite how to get this across.

Well, you know, there's, uh, a skeleton.

Actually,

There's a line of, we're talking about no speculation.

And there is a line, there is, we need no speculation.

We must not speculate about the effect this has on China's relations with other countries or others.

But it would not, it would not discuss the fact that this is almost a discussion between the United States and China and our mutual concerns.

We don't like that.

And also, it's enormously important that speculation is recognized and not considered any speculation.

Discuss right to the hilt the President's leadership, the President's role, the President's control, the leadership that he should have, but it must not be funded.

A lot of such things have gotten in already.

I recognize what you're saying.

Well, there are certain variations on the theme that can be played now, it seems to me.

Don't you think that is?

Yeah, I think we've got a leadership thing.

It's the big thing to play.

It's really big.

It's really big to play.

And I would just say that actually, I don't think you should keep this morning up to a job.

I agree.

It's not.

It wasn't.

It's got a big sun coat.

It's got a sun bath pool.

It's got a sun maker.

That's the only comment that we don't have.

It's on the show.

They bowed to the leadership, and that's something that Scala should not be afraid of.

Scala should not open their minds.

They should not think that they can play with coffee.

It's a cruel world, and we look forward to that.

It's a real danger of our, you have to be careful how you do it, even with Scali, it's a real danger of our, it's our over-selling, kind of over-selling.

I wanted to, what I had to simply say is this, I don't mean Scali, but they all would be asking me, so what, and I might get on something to say,

So that they don't say they're wrong.

And I think they can simply say, well, I can't speculate about what this means.

There's a lot of tough negotiations, and I think that we've got a president who knows how to handle this situation.

And it's a great thing to put him down, and I don't know what he means.

I don't mean about to oversell.

I meant just simply to give

Yeah, people are going to have to, they've got to say something to get a right to ask.

These guys, you know, they're not, you know, they're not, we can't lock them up.

These guys are around, you know, they are asked.

So whether they say, well, I can't talk about it.

Well, I think they can say, I can't talk about it.

I don't know.

The two together, you know, it occurs to me that they're in that little flat, you know, in the 90s entry to that.

Yeah, and the note that he didn't even tell his own staff.

He didn't tell any of the others.

He didn't say what place it was along.

But Bobby Wright will oversell.

And we've got a good story.

I mean, it isn't necessary.

It's had a massive, the story certainly has had a massive effect.

You know, it is exactly what we expected in Bill Wright.

And more than we expected.

Wright said something about Taylor Perry three, four days.

And, uh...

And I think the best proof of it is that Kennedy is, what I just said today, it may be that he's seen some of the things that he could go on.

That's why he said, oh, and he said he had a private team on him, and he said, so at least he's going to be some of the greatest leadership in the United States of America.

By the president?

By the president, yeah.

It's all a present.

It's all 100%.

The first time he was there was to be congratulated for this.

And Kennedy has ever said anything on this story.

He had an interesting little Bible reading that just came to me.

I mean, I saw it.

He put out a letter today or yesterday.

Oh, I didn't know he had a role.

Teddy does.

Oh, Teddy, did I answer that question?

Yeah.

With a letter from Acheson to Jack, praising Jack for his leadership, by the way, of impeaching Acheson.

That was devastating.

That's so true, I'm sure.

And so good that he was in the office, and he...

through all this, and I just kind of bob your ribbons about what you should be talking about, comparing this to a reverse Pearl Harbor house.

Bobby Kennedy had suggested that it be a keen idea to go over bombs and human missiles.

arguing that would be a reverse Pearl Harbor.

Just chop that line for Christ's sake, Pearl Harbor was a sneak attack on an unarmed, unsuspecting enemy at a time of negotiation.

That's a totally different thing.

Let's not deal with the high school level.

And when he finished ripping all that out, Jack Kennedy went over to the doors, looking out at the Rose Garden, stared out at the Rose Garden for some time, and turned around and said quietly, I guess I better earn my pay this week.

And Atchison then comments, it was a very moving moment and one felt deep compassion for this young man for something that certainly wasn't the self-leadership level for the presidential office.

And he just, you know, slashed Jack down into the river and said, Well, I saw him.

I saw the Jack down into the river.

He was a shepherd and all that.

I remember he came out of Portland or someplace right after that.

I forgot if you saw him.

I'm not sure where he was.

The CIA, that we've got working here, was the architect of that operation.

Oh, yeah.

They, they were the one who wrote the memoirs for the Colson.

The Colson was red.

And, uh, so they are really, uh... You know, we're just trying to think about if we could swim with it.

Swim with the Russian sun, if we may.

The Russian summit sort of ties automatically into it some sort of European powers meeting.

Imagine how you'd feel if you were a Democratic candidate for the nomination attending a barbecue in Peking, Illinois, while the Air Force One flew overhead carrying Richard Nixon to Peking, China.

One thing that occurred to me, Bob, I was going to mention to you, I think this is the time to change the way we're talking right now.

I think it hasn't changed, but I would think, now that we've announced this trip, we don't want Air Force One flying to China.

It's coming in Spirit 76.

Might as well.

Jews don't like us anyway.

But that's a good idea, so would you?

Don't you think it's a good idea, John?

I think it just has a good feel to me, so I know it hasn't changed.

I think it should be changed not just before the trip.

I mean, it's got to be changed well in the morning and get back here and announce it.

It's well changed.

Agreed.

Yeah.

Is the name settled?

Turns out it's not a change anyway because the plane doesn't have a name.

It's a designation.

Oh, the name is the same as whatever it is.

It's Air Force One.

It's gotten true every time.

I was just wondering if it could be tied to your announcement in some way.

A journey for peace.

Probably.

The Pilgrim or something.

I don't know.

It's obviously something that's got to be longer range than just this one.

Correct.

I agree.

You've got a basis for that in the device.

It makes the request based on your talk.

It's the rationale that I'm generating, and it carries the right to the next one.

Let's talk a little bit about just letter experience 7600.

Can you refer to it as that?

Yeah, I'll just say request advice.

It's a very good idea, actually.

Let's go to the Aggie problem.

I'm sure a lot of people are on the Aggie problem.

All right.

Let's take my hand to the Aggie problem.

I've been talking about this song this week.

I think in the uptime of this channel announcement, being ahead of the power curve as you are at the moment, is a time for it to resign.

I don't know how you do it.

I don't know what the inducement to it is or how you engineer it.

But I just see it as a liability from here forward.

And particularly if we are part of Vietnam, and it's going to be part of our way together, you understand, we're either going to get a negotiation with China or we're going to announce our own completed plan.

at the end of the war.

And say that we're going to be out until a certain day.

You know what I mean?

And from that time, the damn issue is dead.

From the day you announce it.

That's good.

You have so much going for you right now.

To have that eating away on an unpredictable basis.

What the fight is, the other thing is...

The Democrats have to pick another issue.

Now, the economy is one.

That, however, might become a less desirable issue.

Also, if the last half of the year turns up some, they have no control.

They have no control.

That's right.

They're just going to do it or it isn't.

That's right.

No.

Keep that in mind.

If that begins to go, my view is that you're going to find, when Agnes returns, that they're going to make him the other issue.

It's going to be Agnes and this.

And that'll be bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

What you're looking for.

I think you can avoid it getting very far away.

I have the idea that you can't run the tech no matter what.

You don't pay so much money.

Why?

Because I think he's going to be a liability, overall a net liability in the campaign.

And I think you've got to assume that the campaign is going to be tough enough that you can't carry any liabilities that you aren't, that you don't have to carry.

It may not turn out to be that way.

Maybe, by then you may be Mr. Eason, and the economy will be blooming.

No campaigns in America are that way.

And we're helping, we're always helping.

I think the danger of acting in the campaign is what scares me.

I think we've already proven we are not capable of controlling and leading.

And by the campaign, I mean the next year.

I basically regard the campaign as underway and I'm starting July 1st to this.

The stuff that he comes up with, the laws that we've seen that we aren't able to cope with, and I don't see any way for us to cope with.

That's something I don't know.

I know it's worth giving some thought to that.

But the other side of it is that he is clearly not a man that you want to be President of the United States.

At least it's not that I want to be President of the United States.

Well, I don't think Roosevelt was particularly wanted president either.

Well, he may not have, but if all he did, and if all he described as vaccine, he was a pretty good president.

Well, the main thing was, the main thing was, Roosevelt knew he didn't want Andrew Wallace to be president.

That's the better analogy.

That's right.

And he thought Truman was safe.

If they knew, you'd see what they'd picture when Roosevelt was not living.

So I didn't know.

I had to know.

I had to read it.

I had to stroke already.

I had to stroke.

He was terrible.

He didn't have a college.

He wasn't even...

Well, I think that's right.

I think that's the thing about it.

The analogy is between

The Vice President and Wallace, not the Vice President.

You also have to pick your other things.

You live in a time of great violence.

I think the chances of a president being knocked off are considerable these days, much more than they ever have been before, and several have been through the kinds of nonviolence.

And the other thing is that we can't figure that the health side, and I will hold this position, so it's a very, very worrying position.

We don't realize, and I only realize it at times, and I feel tired for no reason.

And I know that, you know, the health side.

I mean, I don't mean a hard life isn't good, but in terms of when you take it on, sometimes someone doesn't take the exercise, but in many cases, they're not, well, they're accepted to live terribly, but the person dies, which is important.

But, well, I think you've worn it extraordinarily well this first two and a half years.

You haven't been stripped in and done, including in the first couple of months.

I'm very glad you're doing it.

And I think the patient has been probably more intensive than any president in recent times.

So if you really come down to it, what really convinced me that I should take the death vacation?

I think you're having a bad time.

That's correct.

I agree with that.

I do take 24 hours off, but never mind 24 hours.

And I've done that only four or five times.

The average businessman, high-level businessman, the one that's under pressure today, because he's running a company and all that, either works seven days a week and kills himself, or paces himself like a Don Kendall type does and takes three days off every week.

That's a thing they do.

If you take the Eisenhower connection, for example, Eisenhower just wouldn't live without the calling.

And at night, he never lived without the bridge.

They should turn him off of the presidency.

I have the advantage over I do the one thing.

But on the other hand, I don't do this in the weekend.

You play for it every night.

Cranky would fall out of the ice almost every night.

I don't in the weekend.

But I do have the movie.

But I only see it once a year.

Like I did at San Juan, I had to see it once a year.

Virtually every night, which is good.

I get paid off for a couple hours.

Your movie is like Eisenhower's Western.

Or Kennedy's.

It's a lame book.

Well, it really is.

But in this respect, I don't think we can assume, I don't think, I don't think that anybody in this position can assume that he's going to go to the main class.

There's also one that I have determined that if I didn't come now,

And having seen what Eisenhower was when he was held, and he was the new constitutional committee and so forth, well, the point is that I don't, I'll put it this way, any president who now becomes the old president will have to be resigned.

And it's a hard path for a story.

Because you can't do this job if you have a heart attack.

You may feel that, but I would sure, and I think 90% of the country would, right now, that if you have a heart attack this weekend, they would like very much that you should not resign.

The world might not right away, no matter how hard it is.

But the implications are obvious.

I just, looking through what would happen if we're out here, it's pretty scary.

But it's just a joke.

I don't think that.

Why do you think you have no fear of assassination?

Consider the best protection you have is not to see your services.

Thank you.

You have absolute protection against assassination.

I've never heard of that.

They say that?

Sure.

I guess they used to say that about Eisenhower.

No, I don't think so.

Anyway, let's put Agnew down.

Let's think for a moment of Agnew at the job.

Can he do the job, John?

He might grow into a mom.

I don't have any reason to think he can.

I guess that's a negative thing, but I have watched him in our work.

And

He has a height-bound set of prejudices.

They aren't really convictions.

Well, I have some prejudices, too.

All right.

But we all know Harrison.

The comparison between the two of you is dramatic.

And I'm unprincipled.

See, that's what the right says.

OK. OK.

But there are three principles enough to want to get it done.

All of us around here, I think, are problem-solution oriented to some extent.

I'm not sure he is.

I really have the feeling that he would rather abide the problem than to admit the incorrectness of a preconception.

As a matter of fact, it really gets down to this.

He just extended it.

who is absurdity, he'd rather be right than be present.

And as present, he'd rather be right than be present in the broadest sense.

Yeah, that's where it comes down to.

If I got into the niggers for bad, and so did all of the niggers, I have a certain feeling about the problem.

But you can't do that.

Regardless of the consequences to the country, I'm afraid that that's about where that... Because men can't see the country.

Yeah.

These things are minuscule terms, some way or another.

I don't understand it.

We sat around the table, and nobody's done hand problems in the world now.

We gave them a chance.

Connelly raised the point and said, let's give them some things to do.

I said, well, for Christ's sake, Senator, that would give them a lot of things to do.

I mean, he's doing this and that and the other thing.

And they said, well, we've got to give them things to do.

We're getting a lot of public attention.

We've done that.

We won't do it.

Because they really had intergovernmental relations.

There's a curious kind of abdication as if he enjoyed the luxury of indifference almost to the consequences.

He expresses it, but there's no responsibility for it.

I think Agnew should be present.

Or did you ever get down to that?

In specific terms?

You never discussed that issue with him?

No.

I was simply thinking in terms of whether or not he would add a subtraction to the technical term.

Not in so many words, but I feel quite safe in saying that if Price were asked that in some way, where would he go?

and answer in a long, harrowing answer that would come out of nowhere, even though he likes it.

I talked to Bryce, the person, and it turns out that his reading was not one of his resignations.

It was one of his timing as to when he would announce that he would not remain on the ticket.

He would not seek re-election.

He would ask me to permit him not to.

I don't know how it would be framed, but it had, so I talked to Bryce about resignation, and we thought about the fact that it was a possibility that a vice president could resign.

And what happened was the succession laws didn't provide that to a president who appointed a vice president.

The price that Mrs. India has lifted is a very large cloud, quite high.

They're quite intrigued by that.

And also, the vice president had not realized this situation had gone bad.

And it might be extremely interesting.

Let's look at it the other way around.

Yes.

So he announces that he's not going to run.

Well, then it's useless.

Then what you're going to have is all the right things to say, let's draft these.

And then you'd also have every jackass on the liberal side saying we're going to have a liberal in this chamber and I will not have one.

And the other point is that there's nobody at the present time in the cabinet, there's nobody among the governors, there's nobody in the House of Senate that I would put in that place.

on the public side.

Yeah.

And you make this a horrible battle.

You can imagine the kind of people, Percy, and Jerry Ward.

Now there, you get into a right of those G.I.G.

He shows some possibility of growing into the job.

Maybe that would be all right, because as President, your vanity is certainly at least not satisfied every hour of the hour.

You don't need to worry about not taking care of that.

In a very different way.

Let's face it, though, in this respect.

If they knew, resigned, or did not run, and I put the liberal on the ticket, we'd have a hell of a defection on the right.

There's no question about it.

I cannot put the liberal on the ticket.

I cannot.

I don't agree.

But essentially, if I were to resign, it would be his very strong endorsement of the man who appointed him as president.

Or if he were to decide not to run.

That gets tougher.

It seems to me that Bryce was arguing, you know, for the January thing, and he was thinking in January that he actually wouldn't say, I'm not going to be a candidate for re-election.

He sees a lot of problems with that.

He agrees that earlier is much better than later on getting a decision.

And that's why the resignation feels good, because he sees an early decision not to run would be bad.

That is, all that time, that was bad for action.

Where an early decision to resign would be very good, and the earlier the better.

Supposedly because if he resigns, or does not run, you want him to be marshaled.

You're going to get from the people who will say that, they've already said that.

And that's a cut that only a curse wants.

The whole undercurrent.

Everybody knows he disapproves of the Chinese arrangement.

And uh... Nobody came in and asked me to go.

They asked me to go where?

To China.

Well, I didn't know.

Oh yeah, he did.

That's why he came in with me and he pleaded with me in practice.

So now Drew was told he came in for breakfast the next morning and started all over again.

So he's like, cool, we'll see what we can do.

The impression I've had, the first I heard that he was a commenter, was that he disapproved.

He's permitted that impression to remain.

He didn't say nothing.

He said no comment.

He didn't have any pressure to disapprove.

Of course, he did say, well, who do we have doubts?

That was a private communication.

John, where did that cook go?

I don't know.

They want a cook.

I don't know.

Well, the only man, John, who really has the stuff to do the job that he's following, he'd be right there.

It would be a stroke so bold that he'd be right there.

And, of course, it would be a critical other gender.

Just an egg of a job, whether healthy or not.

That would be to be on here.

He'd be banging the pressure.

But smartly, that's right.

And he would have hit it like Agnew did.

And then he would have loved it more.

Conway's got that great capacity to smack into love.

And like you said, when you consider the foes, just general rage.

And he's got a lot of other qualities that he doesn't treat.

That's good to see.

He's got some persuasive power in him.

It's a good year.

It's all out of vanity, which is good.

It's a good family situation.

The family's great.

They love each other.

And so forth.

However, in my view, you couldn't seclude Conlon unless there was a resolution.

I don't see how you could go to a Republican convention and say, I want you to nominate John Conlon as a Democrat and a Republican.

You might.

But it's certainly all a fiddle.

And that's the reason that I've heard.

Giving you the ability to choose your running mate before the convention.

I didn't worry about ASL.

I never saw a guy that was really done in a more leisurely way.

You know, I didn't realize about a couple of place golfers that day on these trips.

That's utter stupidity.

at all.

He hasn't missed a country, I don't think.

No, I mean, that's really the truth.

You've got to make it a period of trips for work.

Not over there with that damn vacation.

I feel that way anyway.

I don't mean a guy's got to be a grime.

This is about golfing around, spending four hours on the golf course and not having enough time to go out and shake hands with people in the street.

Jesus Christ, you know, when I went on these trips with my wife, we worked our butts off, and it made an impression.

Christ Christ, for one of the reasons that it was impressive to me, and I had nothing to suffer from.

He had far more to suffer from than I had.

Our trips really had a better effect because I got a dealer out there talking to the people, and visiting hospitals, and going through plans, and they're making that point.

I'm making a sneer as I come along, because we're in Canada right now.

I'm not so sure, but I just really think that his press is doing their best.

And they're doing very well, extremely well.

I think they are, yes, sir.

Getting through.

Well, I think, you know, there was a devastating piece, you know, that they made.

Hold on, one of the news magazines, the Time or News magazine, climaxed the report by saying that one of the highlights of this trip was an evening in Kenya or somewhere in Africa where he and his personal physician and his very attractive red-headed secretary came down from their left to watch a pair of rhinoceros just copulate.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, shit.

Really?

Yeah.

Trusty for us.

It's a sort of a Roman Emperor act that he's putting on.

Look at that big entourage.

Well, that's a mistake.

We overdone it.

Believe me, we overdone it.

Well, you know what I mean?

It's a security business, you know, because they shot Kennedy and Bobby.

Everybody had taken on the Secret Service.

Christ, I went with two.

But people will make allowances as long as there seems to be work being done.

Yeah.

Well, it's just a big... President, you have quite a staff, wouldn't you?

Yeah, we did.

All the guys in the CSO's, the OES, you know, the U.S. 71 Corps and all that stuff.

I mean, it's all, there's a lot of staff at the U.S.

They won't call.

Well, you know, the U.S. Communications is the place you go.

It's the service category.

Well, it's like that here.

As far as, you know, they order, you know, whatever precautions.

Numbers, cards, all that stuff.

You can take a card with you.

Why?

You can take the card.

Yeah.

Oh.

I'm not sure that's true.

I've asked him to check that little story.

Well, the Secret Service, they do.

They're the ones, but he lets them do it.

They walk all over him.

He does anything they want.

That's your point about fraternizing.

I'm afraid he's in a position now where there's no other Secret Service.

Because he's, he's, he based the currency on the lawyers.

Well, he kind of likes them.

I think he likes them.

I was pointing it out to Madonna and George and some of them, probably most of them, in all the period of my life.

And for eight years, I have never had a chance to do it.

Never.

I mean, that as well as I do old Jack Sherwood, you know, who's been a lot.

Never, never, never, never had lunch or dinner with him or anything.

Never.

And he treated awfully well.

He was Jack.

Jack had a wonderful wife.

And so did Brennan.

He never had a drink.

Or lunch.

Or meat or anything.

Not a goddamn thing.

That's just the way I know it.

Like I said, he was right.

I was a certain... God.

I know you can't prepare one man for a whole different... Johnson, of course.

I think he recognized her for what he had to do.

He treated people checkly at times, but he didn't seem to... Well, I would say that there were huge ties in all of this, but he was concerned that he could actually bring up the power of the... Next minute, he'd catch it.

...secretaries and so forth that they said to behave themselves that way.

This is where it's more important what you do.

It's certainly possible.

In fact, we cannot tolerate running into a guy who gets to this position doing what he wants before he gets here.

He had his people in the cabinet.

He was in this position to have a set of intent.

We've got to become like a teacher's boy.

Don't you agree?

And so what's happened?

You take a Rumsfeld.

I was once thought of very seriously.

You know, here's a guy that you can really come to, but Rumsfeld doesn't have it in his mind.

No, because a guy who has it, you can't spoil it.

A guy who has it, given his opportunity for 20 seconds, and brought it here and turned it loose, it could have taken a placeholder.

That's something to stop.

That's the very problem with the Vice President.

He's a constitutional officer, and his job is what he makes at home.

And if he doesn't have it, he's going to turn into a big pussyhead.

He's just going to sit around and fish all the time.

If he's got it, he's really going to create something.

I think you did when you were vice president.

It wasn't because the president told you what to do.

Actually, John, there's a lot of my stuff.

What I did was greatly overestimate you.

Frankly, I'm sure that trip to Latin America, I...

I emphasize again, Huber had been over and yanked for seven hours and yanked like hell when he came back.

I went over as Vice President.

and just completely dominated.

Now this is true that if Kennedy goes over, we're going to have a lot more play because it's Kennedy.

And it did seem pretty hungry to the Senate.

It is not, however, a bottom line to me.

It is not going to be.

People aren't going to care about our trip.

I think it could have quit your trip.

There isn't anybody.

It seems to me that the man not only has to be qualified to be president, but he has to have ingredients that will make his role as vice president complementary to the president, supplementary to the president, contributory to the president.

And that's the, let me say it's the value of our own campaign.

I personally believe, very strongly, that the best way to have Kennedy go is with four others.

I don't care who they are.

See, it's not a bunch of jackasses.

So a delegation of senators, of which one is steady, in Edward Kennedy, has had a lot there with Edward Kennedy, president of the United States of America, discussing where it would go and why.

I think by a little harm, I suppose, it would have kept him in place.

Say this, if Agnew did resign, it's not very important.

From his standpoint, he would be stronger to resign than waiting out as a lame duck.

And he would be worth a lot more than anybody who's going to be worth something to resign him now, than having him sitting there as a lame duck in the Vice-Chancellor's office.

He also, if he went out and became a commentator or whatever it is he's going to do, could do more good in the intervening year in that role than he's going to do in this role.

The moment he was announced by him, he was not going to be a candidate, which is the other possibility.

The moment that he were to announce it.

First, we have a hell of a fight.

And second, however, Agnew is dead.

dead in terms of his intellectuals.

It draws that bit of attention to him.

On the other side, well, he's got, you know, there's a negative in it for him besides, because there were well up a conservative effort to get him to change his mind.

And he will be pulled and called, pulled and called, and somebody will put him in nomination for vice president at the convention.

They'll write his name and it will screw him up, something terrible, and he'll get tarnished in the process.

And it's the sort of thing he ought to run away from just as fast as he could.

And it isn't enough for him to just stand there and say, no, they're not going to understand.

So he can't escape it.

And an anti-group against his pulling out now is one that's being offered by the active people.

So I saw something super conservative in the conference.

There's somebody who's making a point with the China vote.

was the strongest possible thing that could have happened for Agnew.

Because it makes Agnew essential to you.

Because the same people who will be upset about China, Agnew can keep in mind.

But if you also dumped Agnew as well as going to China, you would have totally written off that whole segment.

That would certainly be true if you dumped Agnew and took Rogers.

Well, now let's say... We're not talking about belting at you.

Now wait a minute.

Let's talk about it as they were driving.

Nobody's going to say, let us suppose, because there's no use in any kind of this goddamn thing if it isn't workable.

Let us suppose that I can resign and say, I'm going so I believe that I want to go outside and I want to find a ticket to go out and follow this guy.

And then I suppose it would be weird if you're thinking about what the player is.

And they put Connolly in.

Now, I find it that regionally, Connolly will sell as well in the South as Aiken.

I don't know why.

He would not sell as well with Republicans.

But Republicans do not carry the South for us.

They helped him.

Well, he won't sell as well with Republicans.

He'll still sit well with the Republicans.

So we're well priced on money.

And he would add an enormous set of Democrats in the South.

That's the point.

And he would sell enormously well, I think, with a lot of other Democrats in the country.

You know what he told me when I first met him?

What he really wanted?

The only thing he wanted was the court.

The Vice President wants to make a motion to correct.

I don't think that's true now.

He could have been concerned about the, uh, the accountability, but I don't think he wanted that.

Anyway, we're not going to, uh, we're not going to, uh, we're not going to hang on to your report.

We're going to let you in.

And that is one of the big prizes, one of the main and one of the most important things in the country.

That is the most important because I don't have to avoid accepting the Jackson who is not going to be nominated.

House of the Nils, Nils can't be nominated.

That's the exception of those two.

There's no Democrat that might be able to handle four of those.

What would you think?

Teddy McBride?

That's the only... Hewitt.

Hewitt.

He's sipping on the sucking up to everybody around him.

And Musty.

Christ, the poor son of a bitch couldn't make up his mind.

And Lee.

That's the best of them to go.

Clear, clear records.

Must have been, yeah, shortcomings of all of us.

I think this is going to become more and more of a compared to what?

How it comes to this, right?

There's really nothing to call it about something to get just something on, so, you know.

They decided that it might not die.

Why?

Give me the stairs, please.

I'll help you.

All right.

I guess he made stuff faster than this.

But they're all in history.

Charlie's not, but he's not an editor.

But he said they're re-dying.

So he is bubbling along with the questions he asks, only to commit positive advice.

And also, as you've seen him yesterday, so I think if they print what he writes, the problem is that you can tell him a life story, a very good story.

So they were dying.

They were dying still.

They were dying.

They were dying all the time.

He says that the story is overriding the narrative.

David Johnson said that this was it.

He's fine.

He loved it.

He said it was the greatest thing that he could remember in a decade.

He just came back from Russia, which was quite interesting.

He said there were a bunch of deaths.

He said that for a great deal of nothing except that you just sort of attacked him.

So much so that he was sent to the church and asked him to go there as part of the same party as well.

Well, the Americans get abroad, you know, and in fact, I didn't have the jobs in all of the world.

And I support it, but if you take on the President of the United States, by God, he's going to have to be the most important person in the world.

And it's going to have to be the most important person in the world.

Hello.

I was just raising the possibility that some Democrats may go, you know, and there are several thoughts that come to mind.

One of the thoughts that comes to mind is the thinking about the board meeting for the second week of December.

I'm well aware of that.

I think what they've come to learn is that you, if you've probably noticed, Kennedy had an orgasm on the G-minus in order to turn it into a G-minus.

I know he did, but it's a baby that he had to receive word that he was going to go.

And they, uh, I think you're going to do it, and that's his chance.

Yeah.

Now, second point.

Second point.

And also, he may figure that you will have something to say about it, whether you can do it or not.

I don't have a second point.

I'm not going to practice.

My view is, art is just a form of existence.

I don't know if I'm correct about whether China comes before Russia.

Yeah, I think that's the best thing for me.

I don't know if that's going to screw anything with regard to South China Sea.

They're going to show great weakness to the

I think we're going to get there.

It hasn't been a great opportunity to play there.

The way, however, that you are going to play the Russian, as I understand it, you're going to play the Russian.

And we would consider going there in spring.

Exactly.

Just that.

And then we are ready to announce it before we go to the future.

What do you say to them?

I think that's it.

We seem to like that.

Maybe they'll say hello.

We're not going to ask them that.

It seems to me that they're rushing something, of course.

The way to get it is to be well-aware.

It's not to be anxious.

A lot of people don't realize it.

It wasn't us who initiated the Chinese summit.

They did.

I will add to what I thought it would go some day.

I was very careful to put it that way.

Chinese, so this is something they need.

Now, on the Russian thing, though, the second point is, I believe that you, on your preliminary trip, I think you should move that up

that you're not going to see.

I am here to find one.

My point is that you were going over with Bruce and, of course, whatever.

You had to send a very significant service in advance.

But the only, well, I'll tell you what I've decided is that there's only one job available.

See, he's the best, the only important thing to be done.

And he's totally, you know, he's a good one.

Your man sucks.

I don't want to send that to the boy.

I don't want to send that to Sean.

Then you won't do the job.

John knows what they can do, what we need, what we can't, and so forth.

It's a big program.

And also, you can talk to any of the consultants where you can put, for instance, a chaplain or others who are excellent men, but really doesn't have the maturity.

You need a mature person who's advanced in the customer inspection.

At that time, too, you'll have to decide how many people you're going to have, how many credits, all that sort of thing.

Second point, I think you're going.

You and Bruce are going.

As you know, too, this time we do have to take medications.

But if we get one of the clients,

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They're all jerks, full-pride boys.

In no way, Cranston, Cranston isn't getting four or five assholes.

They're going to Japan, you know.

My view is that they, that is the group that they're probably talking about.

Now, let me say, it's very much in our interest if Kennedy goes.

That's

You go in a group, grab the Senate, see what I mean?

You're shaking a group of United States Senators, it doesn't bother you.

I had thought, for example, that if you say, well, what the hell, it can't be because of us Republicans being interested in every Republican that's going, well, I don't believe we ought to have Scott or any other people that's going to help us with this because it seems to me that your vision, see what I mean?

Your Republicanism will be equivalent of, and even more so,

in a sense that any Republican could possibly add some jackass Republican senator.

And also, we just don't want them running around over there.

So I do think we could tell them that we'd prefer not to have any Republicans, but .

Yeah, that makes sense.

Okay.

In fact, I don't know if they need .

He, uh, he don't think there's any hope of just holding everybody.

Yes, there's hope.

But, uh, we, I mean, granted, as far as we want to pay our respects, but this particular accident is already causing, uh, We had a message today in which the, uh, discretion was on every paragraph.

Of course, they were praising him for not expressing, but they know that, well, they have no reason to question, so that's good.

They were just trying to say that they thanked General Waters' police discretion in coming to their villa, and they again praised it for some other discretion.

But also, if Henry had gone in to inspect it, as you say, they would have read, too.

He got very strong eyes.

on that issue with regard to the president told everybody not to speculate.

I think that is, that counts.

And I sent, with the proof you'll note, I sent my backup to Joe and I, and I sent about 50,000.

I will answer that again next week.

But still, this is a heavy load.

That's what I was going to do.

All right.

Now, basically, too, they are intelligent, tough people.

And not only are they told by their friends, and their real friends aren't the original people like that.

Maybe that's what you're talking about.

At this time, I'm not sure they have the Democrats in order to cover your basketball players.

That may be hard.

They could do that.

I know that.

On the other hand, they can play these visits in a lot of ways.

So far they haven't told any newsman anything that seems to be good, mostly embarrassing to them, compared to the way the Russians have it.

We have no reason to suppose that they don't have these senators or anything that seems to be good.

I think the real question, the real thing that we have to have with them is that they can't.

I think they should hold Mao for hate, but there's no doubt about that.

It would be misunderstood if this was the presidential office of the president's office of the president's office of the president's office of the president's office of the president's office of the president.

Joe and I still, this is the practice, the chairman of the box, and we talk about pictures, the picture of Joe, Henry's that one, but the picture of Mao will be enormous.

So I think that it's correct, it's trying to make the best light on this.

The other thing is that John suggested that maybe

If they do announce that their attack has begun to go, do you want to agree with them?

And then say, no, I'm going to get it done.

I'm going to get it done.

The difficulty is you can't have them go over and say, well, look, we hit a high launch if you don't monitor this and that.

We don't believe you can treat anything pronounced.

We believe that it's getting out of mind.

That's the kind of thing.

That's why it's difficult.

Now, whether we monitor that or not remains to be seen.

We're a cross-sectional company.

I'll have to go back to people.

And the other question, I think there's a good answer, the policy of consumer strength.

The other point is that it seems to me that if they go, and this is an argument that bothers my people, but I'm not sure John's one.

I'm inquiring that if they go, we've got to do, and I'm not sure if we're going to believe, but I'm hoping we have to do that and say, well, we're going to delay it.

Of course, this is what Americans do.

I welcome it.

I'm not sure you can't do that.

I understand.

They're consulting with you, though, are they not, on this kind of detail?

You know, because I told them that it would ruin the atmosphere of the passengers' trip if they met anybody.

First they said, yeah, but I guess I'm reconsidering.

You know, I think they're going to move all that stuff.

I don't think they're going to take charge.

I think they're going to...

My instinct is that it's at least as much an advantage to build that field as it is a business to do it.

That's why without paying any hostage or paying any price or losing your bargaining points, can't we still make the point that maybe they are not so anxious to have people in here to thank you?

And he came back to it twice.

He came back to it twice.

And he's also sent a message today.

He has sent a message today saying, with respect to your message, we certainly want you to blow it up.

And he promised to do something about that.

My sense is that if we show a general attitude, I'm fine.

And then have them draw the conclusion piece.

I love your game.

But I'm not even going to do us a favor.

The three senators are going to let us know.

They don't let us know.

They know.

They don't know about it.

They don't know.

And it doesn't help us to know.

Well, I suppose that's what you have to do.

That's a hell of a lot better than one.

I don't think they're having a lot of stress.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

That's no problem for us.

That's a whole lot different from .

They may not be dispatched.

This is .

We've also got the government with a request separately from this .

It's my .

The building doesn't ever respond.

no problem.

Every instance I had her come in, but he looked how they treated her.

We know that.

We know that, Bob.

We looked how they treated her.

I mean, he was there for a week.

And he's here to try to dispatch this good reading.

Oh, that was a smooth ride.

How do you know that he has appendicitis?

I think that we...

I think now we have really built up this thing.

On our part, I don't think we have any more we can possibly do to improve the speculation.

We might be scared to put in a demo.

So I think we should check that out.

Let me say one of the reasons, the main reason for doing the speculation, in fact, is not to not respond.

It gave us a beautiful opportunity to get them to put speculation close back.

who got that well under control were the ones who were working fairly well.

Did you tell SIDI that SIDI was right about that?

Oh yeah, I said we worked with them mostly alone, and I think, you know, we gave you instructions, we gave you advice, you know, to be good, you know.

I did that.

He said they're dying.

He asked me, he said, you know, the thing is...

He said the president, you must have felt terribly isolated these last few months with everyone sniping at you.

And I said, yes, and the president resisted the temptation of indicating that he was working on something big.

He said, well, he said, well, the power of the...

They're probably going to be ambivalent.

They hate the idea that this was done through Nixon.

He said, but that's nothing compared to my anniversary.

I died.

They say Nixon, of all the people in the world who have done this, Nixon.

That really is a horrible comment.

Well, it's all right.

Well, it's a commentary on life, but you don't understand that.

That's your choice.

I enjoy it, but for them to have to do it, you do.

It's a story that would be nice to read.

Say it.

You will.

I must say it.

Would you, uh, would you, uh, that ideal of a human being, you know, an ideal except for those conservative groups that you can handle well, uh, if you can handle the conservative better?

It helps you, Mr. President, with our Chinese to have the right wing, because one of my most potent arguments to these guys is they don't need the Democrats, and only you can deliver the right.

I think as far as the Rockets thing is concerned, no, I agree.

As Bob was saying, you have, in anything, overdone it.

You're great credit.

Now, however, I would just, without fagging off and uncooling it, but we can't let the impression that it exists, the impression exists, and state prepared health care.

That's probably right.

They have nothing to do with it.

Somebody at both sides, he said he was Roger's device counselor steering you in that direction, and you had the strategic sense, and he had the great...

I'd like to let you know that we don't want to be on that list and anything like this, but we want to write the truth.

This isn't the way it happened, but we need to start.

If he'd only moved, I think we can't really say it.

But all the hours of agony he went through and how he got out of that rush, and COVID three days from then.

That's right.

I think he's got a whole other issue.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, I'm not going to do that.

before you go to the art house, I think, well, I think, uh, the thing is, I love the tactics of development.

that they called back an ambassador from Paris to give them instructions to come to China.

I said, I'll come back to the channel shortly.

He said, Melvin should eventually come back to me.

He said, Monday the 19th.

Monday the 19th, 14th, Thursday.

He said, Melvin, can you flag me for the instruction?

I said, I'll flag you on Monday the 19th.

And they were very, very strong.

But, you know, they have faith in the hands of God.

So they are eager to, and this is our best guarantee for their behavior.

And I sent them another good sentence.

Yeah, it's definitely one of those things that I'm going to say to the people who are well-known editors of life on the wall.

Can you imagine one of the editors of... Can you imagine one of the editors of the New York Times?

Can you imagine one of the editors of Washington Post on the web?

I knew that it was a diplomatic event.

I did not think it would have quite such a big impact.

If we play it cool now, it's not just a little chessboard, because Sabrina was salivating over it.

Yesterday, the sequence is that in the second half of September, he's supposed to go to the 15th.

Yeah.

To go to PK.

That's what he's supposed to do.

Just this month ago, and obviously just this Henry, one thing that I think would be important for me to acknowledge, I mean, it even fits into that thing that you're meeting with the issue of this and that that we talked about on Saturday.

is the announcement of that September 15th visit.

Mr. Clinton, you want that to be made.

My view is that having that made before they announce the Democrats come over may not be a bad idea.

What was your view about when that would be announced?

I agree.

Don't suck it around.

And I suggest take the basic position

then we should agree to be done with that.

And we can't control that.

They certainly can't.

But I came up to this point.

We haven't had any further... Yeah.

I didn't...

It was my day that day.

I'm used to getting to that.

And it's been a significant event in my view will be your coming.

And it's in their interest that that be a significant event.

It's in their interest that you be a significant source and go there.

Why should they give up their evolutionary virginity for a man who's on the way out?

It doesn't make any sense.

So I've always felt that we had a bigger stake in this trip succeeding than we did.

We haven't paid any price yet.

For us it's been a let down.

I think it's nice for you to get together to show her.

Hi Gloria, hello to us.

Stella flying up with you?

Yeah.

Stella flying up with you?

That's good.

Super Gloria.

Yeah.

Well, anyway, on the other thing... No answers.

You know where it's going to come from.

And then Reagan.

I think he's better at it than Agnew is.

He's smarter.

I think he articulates his... We just have to make up our minds for this fight.

Because in my view, if Agnew is not going to be on this ticket,

I don't, because I think we would be, in terms of the election, we would be more problems than we could solve.

You know, I mean, they have to go to the nomination convention and have a hell of a fight to break it off to 50%.

So that, and that is much.

Well, and given that, I think every day that goes by,

It's almost too late.

I think there is no better time for a resignation than the soonest possible day.

Any scenario here isn't just this visit.

Russian episode and these other things coming down the line, there will never be a good time from an international standpoint to go and get something that could be on the fire.

That is good.

The more you have on the fire, the better.

All right.

The more quietly you can get Agnew out and Conley in, that's the route you go.

The better off you are.

And then let Conley rise to his own weight and get the job.

and give him time, that's right.

But let him be one hell of a Vice President, which he is perfectly able to do.

What do you do if you're running around some intriguing, you can make him your chief domestic, Vice President for domestic affairs, or your President for international affairs, and really fine.

What do you do by his registration?

Nothing.

Okay.

I mean, I'm not going to fight for that, but I'm independent of talking to anybody.

But I mean in terms of the convention.

In terms of the convention.

At the time you get to the convention, you reach a conclusion.

Well, what about picking plain language tradition on purpose?

Well, I...

I don't know what they're trying to say.

And he was, did not change his registration number.

I, I, we checked it.

It's worth, worth checking.

You'd have to manipulate the convention rules because I suppose the standard rules will require nomination of a member of the park.

So, you know, it's worth checking.

Let's have a private check made about whether it has to be a member of the park.

It would be a tip-off.

Are we going to check that?

Oh, I mean, no, I mean, you would ask the convention to suspend that rule well in advance of the convention.

If you appointed Conley vice president, they wouldn't be invested.

He's going to be there.

I understand.

No, I'm warning you.

It's not on the convention.

It's not on the rules.

Don't misunderstand me.

I don't mean we're hiding that fact, what we're headed for.

Probably.

I'm going to change the rules unless you move far enough in advance that the national committee does it before you get there.

To the detail.

Yeah.

If it's a problem, Conley can change the rules.

Yeah.

And frankly, it's better if it doesn't really change anything.

I think so.

If I go to the country and be a Democrat, no.

And if you really need to, well, you're going to have to do something.

Let's come to something else.

Could we get Reagan supported?

I think you can't absolutely deal with it in a whole other way.

I have to support him through the Senate in 64, 74, or I'll work out what we should and what we can't.

They seem to be talking about the Senate, yeah.

And he brought a few pitches, but there's no pitches now asking for any Republicans.

He touched over the weekend, but he's given us some serious thought, because he probably went through Democrats for the Senate.

I think he just got off his throttle somewhere.

He was at the staff meeting in the morning.

But then he didn't show up to the cabin.

I didn't see him in the academy.

No.

Or at the later staff meeting that, you know, the Rossell debate.

Or was it?

Let's see if the Danvers don't have any of it.

Well, let's find out.

We'll find out where he was.

Yeah.

I should get him in and talk to him.

He gave up his job.

Yeah.

Oh, yes.

Let's get it over with and see what the hell he wants.

He's got to decide what he wants.

I mean, the position is still open.

I mean, like I said,

OEP that he doesn't have that some other names in any event we got to get moving on that we might put peterson there we go again

Well, the governor, Bob, that's what he said.

He didn't say he was going to.

He said he was giving serious thought to running for governor instead of senator.

They believe that probably the reason he said that is that he's taken seriously running for senator.

That's what he said.

I wasn't kidding this morning, but Dole wasn't getting there, but California isn't.

And then with the 74 races, the 72 wasn't even coming along.

And right at the first one, Toronto comes in.

Or something.

And then we got third.

So...

In fact, there's no reason to believe that any Republicans that will get elected anything.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Well, if they look better than I should, I'm sure they will.

And you could, if you could do as good as you will, then I'm sure they could make a difference.

But you are going to be running in 74, and that's one of the candidates.

But they have to in 72, except you.

All right.

We're not talking about that one in 74.

No Senate vote in 72.

You are the ticket, the last thing, which incidentally, I think is the, you know, they're a hell of a lot better off running without a ticket, without a statement.

That's right.

Yes.

No, Bob running, it's Bob, the congressman, and they'll probably be most certain, most certainly, possibly, but it's the last thing that California needs is a governor.

That would be my diagnosis.

There is a place for Bob Finch in this world and it's absolutely clear that it's in the United States Senate.

He should have been there last year.

We were in that perfect moment when he was there.

That is what's breaking.

Right.

Just can't stand the fact that he was there.

Just keep on talking.

Do you think there's anything there or anything to suggest anything?

I don't know.

Bob for the embassy something.

How about Dale?

Bob is so obsessed with running for office in California that I think the thing for him to do, he ought to get out of the White House.

Does he resign from the White House right now, this summer?

I think, I know Carol, oh yeah, that's the other argument on the governorship.

It says that the real reason that he may be running, decided to run for governor is that Carol is fed up with Washington and doesn't want to come back in the Senate.

And I'm sure there's some truth to that.

Isn't he going to get the threat there?

in California, if he goes back there.

If he goes back and runs, but if he goes back.

But he goes around the damn road.

He does that if he doesn't go back down.

But he's there in Maytel or somewhere.

You know, it enhances

It would enhance its status.

I think Bob would be good, to be honest, for a while.

And I'm inclined to think that he could do a makeover extremely well.

Get out of the country completely.

That's our point.

Well, see, that would be a bitter pill for Bob to swallow, because he thinks he's essentially your re-election.

And I should look to him like we were telling him that he's essentially gone.

Yeah.

Well, we tell him that, Bob, your future also is involved here, and by golly, you're better off to have this.

Then he has a year, at least, with NATO.

And then he goes back and becomes a candidate, and he's got to run for two years.

But if he goes back, no, I mean, John's got a point.

He's got a hell of a time.

But he's doing it now.

He's getting it.

He's got a job.

What do they say?

That Finch is always in California and that he will accept any speaking engagement.

That is your high school love.

That's the sad thing.

He's doing the same scheduling.

You and I talked when he was running for lieutenant governor about how, and I had all the proper loyalty and everything.

I was trying to take over his schedule and get him out of doing the stuff he did.

Because he runs like he was running for a... Well, it worked for him.

the time you ran for lieutenant governor.

That's right.

It worked for others.

It worked for other reasons.

I think there were other factors there.

It was in the last two weeks that they kicked the Democratic candidate that we're really putting in.

Right.

And Anderson was a horribly weak candidate.

and had Watts on his hands, one of the trucks.

But Bob was attracted, and Reagan helped Bob.

Even though Bob ran into Reagan, Reagan was out for Ron.

Bob, at the end of the race, gave him all his wood support.

And his body, and his punch work.

And I think we helped him a little, too.

You sure did.

Right.

At least, for whatever, what's worth, it helps us.

a lot of problems.

It helped a lot.

But you helped him just because everybody didn't use what we would.

Could we, well, on his part, I must see him over here later.

That's kind of an issue.

I don't know if I would buy any money.

I can't say how long his daughter is going to stay around.

I must have a

You know, it's worth about two hours and a month away.

Tomorrow's Wednesday, isn't it?

He's starting to shoot for Wednesday, and I'm probably going to take my lesson too, and I'm going to get some photos back.

He probably needs this kind of advice, and I'm probably going to take it, right?

And the other thing is that he won't.

If he won't, go out of the country, California, and get a complete state job.

and get some money, make some money, make some money, make some money, make some money, make some money, make some money, make some money, make some money, make some money, make some money, make some money, make some money, make some money, make some money, make some money,

Never had the impression I was going to travel around the world.

The best contact connector does.

Bob needs to get scarce.

He does.

What he needs to do is get in a non-cancerous job where he does travel around the world.

He came out of California politics.

I mean, presidential politics.

The Reagan-Firestone thing.

Well, that's what they keep saying.

This is a...

From the president's seat.

Yeah, he mentioned it.

Yeah.

Well, but he believes that Bob Bobby's going to be... That's where I'm getting it.

That's where I'm getting it.

It just feels...

It's very dangerous to have Bob floating in and out the way he is and getting in and all that.

But he's in it.

It's the only way to concentrate.

Well, if he goes back to California, he won't stay out of the politics, no way.

Why don't we start to stay out of it until...

If he went back, what he wants to be is chairman of the campaign in California.

Does he go to the county committee?

He does.

He could.

Yeah, he went to the state central committee.

He stood around there for three days talking to those idiots.

Yep.

But it's all pretty little.

Nobody asked him to.

Yep.

I thought if he were an ambassador to Mexico, that might be better.

He always knows that.

It would certainly give him a big leg up on the Chicago thing.

If he played it right.

I would take it, but I don't know if he would play it that way.

Yeah, he could.

But if he does, it pulls him out of the campaign.

This is true for President Trump.

And that I don't know if he can take.

But he can't be checked out of the campaign.

That will not work.

Reagan will never get that.

Reagan's already heard of him.

He's off and running.

I don't know where I'm going to get these meetings that you've been trying to fire some of them.

I'm trying to test them.

But those meetings, they're not with us.

They're with the delegation.

Yeah, but that translates into several other things.

I don't know where I'm going to get them.

Right now, we can just look up, one at a time, and we'll get them.

I don't know what happened.

I'm going to shoot Christ.

I'm going to shoot them.

Oh yeah, he's sitting there.

Maybe if you ask him for his own favor.

And then foremost, we need to place the bird's nest soon.

You know, isn't it quite a commentary, you know, what Henry told us?

I mean, he's been waiting for Henry, I'm sure he said.

Yeah, about the time, remember I told, I've been taking Henry for a few years.

This is the timeline.

We're out on the coast.

And they are.

Correct.

They've always postured themselves as, uh, a Republican magazine, or as, you know, or balanced, or, you know, all that stuff.

But, uh, there's definitely a difference there, huh?

Yeah.

Well, let's say when you pour it right in, you can get somebody to say that.

Jim, do you want to share it with the guy behind you?

Sure.

I'm curious, do you, you know, again, choose?

Well, let's think of this time.

I threw a wall there.

It was a loose day at the second level.

Now they've got the Washington Post and they've got this thing.

Oh, it's you and I.

Sorry, I guess it's besides my darkness.

Thank you.

Yes, true.

It's a sapphire.

It's a sapphire, of course.

It's right up there in California.

It is, isn't it?

Yeah, it is right there.

All right, well, let's wait for it.

But it's vitally important, John, this is a very close relationship with that man.

Maybe you don't mention that because it's about the consummations.

I don't want you to give a damn.

I'm giving half of it.

You know what I mean?

Well, make a deal.

We'll do anything you want.

But main thing, I don't want to overrule him.

I don't want the White House overruling him against him.

You see what I mean?

The only way they knew this would be for me to take Krogh over there.

And for Krogh, it would run down what he found around the world.

It would be different from how he's heard from his people.

All right.

And that's what's working out part of our cause, is I don't think he's in command of the bureaucracy.

That's true.

As he named it, I think he is.

Sure, but they're all lobbying.

You know, he came in on time.

You know, Charlie Walker's in there, trustworthy.

That's right.

Snaking around.

That's right.

Well, I'll do that.

But remember, the price is worth it.

It's a matter of pressing until we'll pay the price.

But not all of them.

They will let us take out a bunch of the compromise.

Or, you know, I don't know.

Well, and along the lines.

once a week going over to the gallery for an hour or so and just going through a list of things that we've accumulated.

So I will continue to do that and try to step it up a little bit.

Hopefully you can see that.

Hold on.

The amount of time that, hopefully, takes the viewers and the amount of time that, probably, takes the viewers,

And he's also fueling the line of suburban housing.

He has really kept his nose to the chalk line.

And Duke has too.

We owe that to him.

Keeping their blacks in line.

We owe that to him.

All right.

Well, he understood even before that.

We've had a very good working relationship.

He has trouble.

You know, it's too bad we have to talk about it.

I felt, you know, on the staff meeting, getting up in the air and all that kind of shit.

We had to get the credibility, and we had to get this talking, and also we had to relate to other subjects.

I think very good.

I hate to do it.

Very good.

I like to leave it lifted rather than Peter Munchie, whether he's a black journalist or not.

People like to sacrifice a little bit when they're asked to.

Absolutely.

They like to feel part of the inside out.

That's it.

Up or down?

Up.

He's because he's nervous.

And the last thing we need, though, is we're going to have to make a decision.

The last thing we need, because despite all the reactions from Rodgers and so forth, Rodgers is a very weak read in the sport of Paulson Field.

He's clever, but he has no sense of the dimension.

He's a tactician on the stretch.

Well, I would guess with the super prominence that Henry's had lately, that the Rodgers thing is no longer...

possible issue whatever yeah so much in the supremacy because what bothers henry is all the little things which i haven't even noticed to praise his pencil

You just got to keep cultivating all the time.

Well, you're right that getting to relax on the track is incredibly important.

Both of you.

And he's going up.

Also, he's passionate.

Oh, sure.

I was going to say, they're crazy.

They all stand out.

Now, I have told Cosby the question, do you know about this?

But I haven't told him.

You mentioned my conversation with him.

Yeah, I said, I thought, yeah, I said, and he must have put to it.

No, I said, Bob has talked to me about this problem.

I said, I probably did better.

And I'm better.

I'm going to tell you correctly what I am about this.

Now there's one other way to play this stuff.

One other way to play this stuff is to put a son on a bench.

The problem with that is that the president can get a lot to do with it all.

He can't just die in action.

I think he is a big drag.

He's a hell of a drag.

Oh, I think potentially he is about 75% of your credibility from him.

I do think this, I think I follow a lot of the youth problem.

I mean I don't, I report and say that I sense for example that I think we have an unfair report.

You know, the rest of what I can see is the hate that they put through to each other and just the emotional reaction of my wife is the most intense.

Oh, there's a responding of superior kind of thing.

You're not liable for his actions.

Or, I don't know if that's right, the oversumption.

Nobody buys it and he thought he was independent, not really.

You know, I really feel it terribly.

It's almost unbelievable.

It's always worth a check.

Everything that happens in this room is unbelievable in a sense.

He's the best man for the job.

He's been there and carried it the whole time.

He's taken some rough shots, but superb.

He's got a great class.

I want to stay one step away from it for a while, but you talk about this process.

I'll be glad to do that.

I think what this all comes down to, obviously, is that there's anybody that's going to be able to deal with the nice person who sent you.

And my strong feeling would be, and without meaning to press this harder than it deserves, that your soldier in California is the ideal time to do it.

Just had him come out there secretly or vacation.

Well, all right.

Well, I don't see it.

I just don't think he would take it from anybody.

And when they had their conversation, Bryce indicated, he indicated to Bryce that he would

But we can continue the conversation if we have a conversation when we get back.

But we might just play my rice.

And rice now has the bug in it to hear about Vice President's resign.

You see, the difficulty is, I agree with Richard, it's coming very clear in this conversation, for example.

A who announces that he's not going to be a candidate will not be, will not work.

Does that mean Reagan's the candidate?

Well, it'll be Reagan.

God damn it, if I don't put on Reagan, he'll run for president.

And Reagan, in my view, would be the worst drag on the ticket tonight.

Yes.

Do you think so?

Potentially.

If he were developed right by the opposition.

Illiberal, against education, oppressive, you know, simplistic, bomb-thrower, hit the world with war, doesn't pay his taxes.

Well, I mean, there's a dossier you've got to be built on.

That would be very tough.

Very tough, yeah.

Well, maybe what we ought to do is to marshal the arguments

that should be made to the Vice President and give him the break.

Okay.

Right.

He's expecting me as well.

But that is, we'll have a talk with Bryce, and I don't have the time to go over your treatment.

I'll talk to him before he does it, but I want Bryce to get into his head and get sold on the idea that we cannot, it's impossible to keep him on here.

And frankly, if that does not resign, I didn't do anything else.

I agree with Bob.

We cannot take Reagan.

I don't know who that election is.

Do you agree with me that it would be Reagan?

I think so.

I think by the way, when the convention crammed down your throat, I think the convention, the Republican convention, wouldn't take it.

As a substitute for Edmund, they aren't going to take anybody for Reagan.

As far as the part is concerned, it would be beautiful.

It would just be great.

But if you get a solid 24% of the vote in this country without a quiver, where you get the other 26% owned, I don't know.

You'll get coal runners 27 million.

Trump proposition.

The curious thing, the tough thing here is

I think that's what it is.

If it is not a case, then that's a question.

They are more likely, more often, not to be nominated than not to be nominated.

That's our inquiry.

That's true.

That's why they didn't file that restraining order.

They may not be able to.

Okay, bring her down.

Good day.