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He gave me a long memo he had gotten from this fellow, this press guy, which he was going to rewrite as a memo to you.

And he said how he wouldn't give this, he wasn't going to give it.

The goal is to convince him that there is somebody that's pumping out two things.

One, that he's at odds with the President regarding China's policy and therefore will be dropped, particularly.

And that unnamed White House sources have spelled out the details of this to Brian Corbett.

Brian Corbett, yeah.

Brian Corbett, right.

and he says they're hoping to see whether such sources exist.

His office, the government will check it out.

After the first year of the Cormier, he says several months ago.

I'll have to check it out, but Cormier, it's apparent that whether it's Cormier alone or working with someone in Hawaii on a circle of pieces, it's being given a wide spread of national security measures.

It's being spread across the entire area of China, right?

And then they pick up and come away and spread the name.

Okay.

Then he said, one day later, I received a call from John Scalzi, who informed me that he had been disturbed over an expert by the Vice President on their correspondent, Adam Rodgers, covering for his channel story.

The Vice President checked this out and it turned out that it wasn't true.

We got to pick it up.

They asked Skelly what his source was.

He named Frank, the former Mayor, among others.

He said it's been brought up.

He said if he heard a client, he would be able to check with the client and establish that his name is not mentioned.

He says, call another.

I said, Les Gallagher.

The beat called Les Gallagher.

He said, you know, what are you upset about?

Gallagher said, I don't know.

And then he went back to Gallagher and said that.

And Gallagher said, well, that's the way Les Gallagher is.

Well.

I don't know any more than that.

There's a lot of just .

There's also an airplane story that said the Vice President, he has on his cable saying.

Are you sure the Vice President did it?

I don't know.

That's not true.

What's that one?

This airplane may have made it up.

What do you think?

Martin Sonert says that he received a second cable.

It's not signed with the White House.

So be sure the Vice President is aware of the contents of the State Department.

This is the economy.

Yes.

And so it is.

What it is, is a lot of damn sensitivity about stuff that is inevitable.

Now, God damn it, they'll make it up, maybe it's true, maybe it isn't.

On the other hand, you tell everybody around Bob White and Scali and Fred, be like Caesar's wife, and don't feed the damn thing.

There's no reason to feed it.

They should stay out of it.

Just stay out of it, old guy.

It doesn't look right.

And I don't want to hurt people's feelings.

Scali may have done it with the best of intent, you know.

Please, I don't know if he does engage with these kind of stuff.

Fine, anyone can be on the line.

I don't think I'm on the line, but the line is really good.

The line's a problem.

He doesn't suspect the line.

The line's a problem.

It's a good thing.

I opened it on the basis of Boyd House staff.

I'm sorry.

We've got to cover this thing.

And then they'll hit him again, so he didn't see him, so he just heard a question about it.

And then he leaned back, and it went on for some length of other weeks.

And then they put him in a row, and he confessed.

But again, it was a terrible and nasty reaction.

Yeah.

He was terrible and Roger said, we're ready to change that.

He's also, he's got a superb letter to the editor of the Newsweek from our ambassador to Kenya.

Just totally shooting down the Newsweek staff.

Did you see that?

No, but I, you know, we risked it.

Because that, if we get, it ought to, because the problem, the pathology is developing on the basis that we've seen in two or three other pickups.

They say you travel in four, Boeing 707s, and the cargo plane is two more, but it's not the same as all of us.

It's the ambassador who came and said, you know,

He said he spent all his time in Kenya hacking off course and he only spent a few minutes with Kenyatta.

He actually spent two hours and 45 minutes with Kenyatta.

His time off course there was with the defense minister and then the prime minister or something.

the golf course has been more productive in the vice president's relationship with those two men than would have been the same amount of time in a formal meeting.

And he said, as far as hacking up the golf course, I hacked it up a little bit.

The vice president shot a very good game or something like that.

And on the limousine business, he said the vice president, the entire time he was here, traveled with my six-passenger Chrysler sedan.

What is the story of an outfit like that?

They had two, they had one set for seven and they had a second one for backup.

They always have that.

They have that in the ring, though.

I even had Constellation back then.

Well, a guy like that, he's got to be able to get it back to you.

That doesn't mean he doesn't question it at all.

On the Newsweek thing, I thought that...

I'm gonna be damn sure.

I just am not going to see, I want that cut off.

I really want that totally cut off.

I want you to get that to Ziegler.

I want you to, until they correct this and correct it, I want you to have a retraction.

I think Ziegler should have a retraction.

Ziegler should say that the president is practicing retraction.

He'd be retraction, not the vice president.

He tried to retract into that space.

Here it is.

And he expected him to do what he had to do.

He drove him out of the goddamn pressure room.

Well, that son of a bitch hugger threw him out.

He said, he's a snake.

I don't want him to come in and say, I don't think that's what happened to you.

But that's not true.

I know what they're up to.

I think this has got to be played.

I want it played today.

I want them to get after that mystery story.

What have they done about it?

Why the hell would we be done with it without that action?

We didn't have the vaccine.

We didn't have the boxes.

They're there.

We can get up.

You can get into a crowd and push into some of the box offices.

They're there like that.

They said 141 people traveling.

Get up everybody and put in all the Secret Service agents in each community.

It's more than that.

You take a sufficient party, it's 15, you know.

Forget that point, because we have points where they're wrong.

Just say it's not only they're wrong.

But I want the news to be things I want, and I expect that to be.

And Zeiger is to tell you, he's to call in others and say, you're frozen out, son.

And he's frozen everybody out.

You give the word to the White House then and say, until this is corrected, this vicious story, and viciously inaccurate, show them the letter.

The news week is not going to be...

to give them a goddamn line up here.

There's not going to be any cooperation under any circumstances.

I want every member of the cabinet to, at least one member of the cabinet, just say, send a copy of the story and a copy of the letter and say this is what happened.

And that until the story is correct, the president believes that he's

respectfully read, directs, the president directs, and there'd be no cooperating with the acting, I'm sure.

Well, that's a good thing to play.

Don't you think so?

It's a good thing to play.

Let's do it that way.

I'm just directing.

If you send it out, say, the president directs, and we have a cooperation center that each and every time we have it, and you say, here is this vicious attack, memorandum for me, vicious attack,

because the letter from the ambassador to the U.S. and that a tracking has been demanded to do so.

And until it is printed, there is to be, until it is marked the letter for confidentiality or something like that, we expect that the President of the United States, all members, is captured.

I'm going to make a little bit of a comment.

First, you do the White House staff on Monday.

And the best way for me to do it was to go to the Capitol on Thursday night.

And I just told myself, no, that's better.

I don't get it.

But you say the president directs.

I mean, I think the president directs and directs the members of the White House and the members of the Capitol.

I'm not going to cooperate under any sort of incentive, even on any story, until this false story, this patently false story is destroyed.

That'll raise a little hell around here.

And I think we're going to have something to do with whether they're going to be mad because we take them on and fight them and so forth.

Well, we should.

You know, Rob, we are... And that was a dirty story.

Right.

It has lies in it.

It also has any windows that are not true.

Right.

And it's written, carried in a magazine.

We didn't have it.

We didn't have a reporter covering it.

That's right.

And also, I'm just going to play the press a little harder than you're going to play it harder than I am.

John, and Phil Fisher, right?

John, he did his, uh, well, he wrote that, you know, in this briefing.

And that's normal, he said, in the press.

And he said, on the TV, he got this, in the back of the room, he says, the fucking reporters can't keep their goddamn mouths shut and tend to their own business.

Here it is, because he was missing a trip to California.

He said, cancel her.

He said, shit.

I thought it might be a lot of trouble.

Well, especially the photographers, because he doesn't have to work.

Or we can.

It's funny.

They go out there Saturday night, and the whole night Saturday, and the whole day Saturday.

And girls have to work.

They get good weather.

Girls have their shirt and bar set up.

and all that.

But you know, it's an ironic thing.

We have a perfect basis for cancellation.

I told the vice president, and he loved it.

He said, you're getting on out on a trip now.

I said, well, we're just going to go out.

We've canceled the California party.

I said, yeah, you'd be interested.

I called the very person who told him that I went through the whole line.

Well, it's a good way out, frankly.

Who knows?

As I said, it would be a good time to make a little talk like this, but we'll definitely find a forum.

Who knows?

Right now, if the government were invited to the court, they would do this.

Oh, incidentally, I didn't want to remember this, but I'm not going to go this way.

I also said after he made the announcement, the A-team guy came up to him and said, we had our guy set up for the next game.

They'll break the gridiron for a long time.

Why the hell don't they?

That's the double standard.

The gridiron has the same audience that you have with the girls, except half the standard.

And yet, they don't break that, now what's the difference?

Is there any difference here?

No.

The same audience, exactly.

Except in this case, the holster is by Rachel Crichton.

So if they follow the record, how is it that the, uh, if you go to a lot of holsters and you press it, I know, but I, I don't want you to write something like that.

Her, uh, Bohemian Quill was founded by a newspaper and an artist.

Yes, sir.

I don't know what his situation is, but I'm afraid it is.

I don't know if we're getting the right reason.

I think it may be that he's talking about it.

He's talking.

I'm not too sure.

He brings up the whole president thing.

He's really obsessed with this.

We went into the National Media Control, the 310 Works, and the 2 Wire Services, and the 2 Major Papers, and the 2 News Magazines.

I'll bet you this will help appreciate around the world quickly.

Why the hell are you so sticky about your food?

I don't know, that's what they'll say.

I'm going to make clear.

You put it right to them.

They said they didn't want anything.

I'm not going to get that.

They're close to me.

They don't get it.

I'm not going to break it.

It's always going to be.

It's all right.

I think they certainly do it.

They're in close quality.

They really want to.

It may not be.

It's probably going to be.

It shouldn't be.

That's the issue.

My point is, they're going to have to move it.

That's the point, there are other forms.

I think we should look for one.

Mark Reagan, I think.

But I think you're right to let some of them go.

I think you're right to let some of them go.

Well, you keep a hold on Vice President.

You see, you understand the pain here.

Whatever we want to do.

That's why you can't drive in this condition.

You can't drive in a place where the Eisenhower Church is not here.

How long is that?

It probably wasn't getting any better today.

He looks a bit scared to see what's going on with me.

Gotcha.

You can tell now what you're going through.

You don't have to hold back, son.

You can get better now.

You've got the word calling you now.

That's right.

I'm always very open.

Space, space.

Sure.

Hello, Steve.

Hello.

Well, I'd like to know if you just have anything to report, you know, what you think.

And then, oh, I don't know if you can call him back.

Before you leave, I'd like to know if there's any copies that you thought you should know.

If you're telling us that.

I don't know when it will be able to get off.

Well, before you send this letter, you should have called Hubbard, and had a sacred call Hubbard, and said, you know, or had you called the publisher who received this letter, and already, as a different, you know, go right to them, not right, but you got them.

About the medical act, of course, you know, you only had this goddamn thing before.

We went around the track with Keogh and others.

They said, don't take them off the front of them, or you'll catch them in the law.

Nail, you've never heard of it, but what's been said, nail the little lies.

Well, Dick Horner, well, Dick Horner, but he said that this is the nail detection of the lie.

Nails, and hit him hard.

And we got him here, and we hit him hard.

And that's that.

It's like, it's like a vision.

So I really think that it's terrible.

It is.

They're making it up.

They're printing what will make the cause of the letter out, but it also describes the price too.

And they said, I want the letter to get out.

They said, Mark, the letter comes with a key.

And the other person said, I want you to get the letter out.

Don't you think you should?

You think he's the best with letters?

Oh, hell no.

The letter doesn't fit.

The letter that he had, the letter that he had.

There's going to be no cooperation.

Usually you can go like a tractor.

I'm sure it's a good idea to get it out.

Yeah, I'll make it out.

It'll get out.

Wow, notable.

Okay, just send it all back and we'll see if it does get out.

Good, that's better.

Dead low is the breeze.

The way they'll get out is some of them will tell you and say, you know, we're going to start to knock you out.

I could go, you know, put a right on you and then they said, do it anyway.

That's what you start to do when you're trapped.

The only other approach, the only way that you might wait is to do it with a student.

I don't think you wait.

I don't think asking is regarded as a friend.

You can't wait.

All you have to do is do it and until they come.

Until they come.

Until they've done it.

I don't think that we have to call them to see whether they're a friend.

I've shared a letter in this position.

I'll tell you what, you get this week's money, don't you?

The one week's money.

Send the letter a month, a week, a week, but it's not in there.

Then what?

Unless the Vice President knows, then I'm doing it.

They're going to stick it to these trucks and right off the bat, I'm going to sanitize it for anybody.

Tomorrow would have been a pretty bad, hard day.

It would have been very hard.

You know, I'd arrive out here every time fine.

Well, it wouldn't have been hard.

There would have been two appearances, but it would have just been me and some of the other ones.

Correct.

Being with the Republican leaders, flying out on the dam, dedicated to the dam.

The Republican leaders are just going to do us a handshake.

You know, it does each group a thing.

It's never too late.

Right.

But we'll find, I'll tell you what, we'll look for a dangerous forum and whack them.

We want them.

That's what we want to do.

They'll come down.

Yeah, yeah, Shultz was reading from the statistics and persuaded the Wall Street Journal.

Right, statistics.

Profits up.

Sales up.

Oil sales up.

You know, it's all going on.

Housing starts, I forget what day we're at.

It's basically, Christ sounds like the biggest move in history.

If you really come back by the budget we paid to do it, it would be a hell of a charge to pay for one loss.

Even the way it came out, it was the right thing to do.

Today, this week, we've got cashews in there, too, rather than 75.

That makes a difference, but we've saved a lot.

And, incidentally, the lines that were lost were not over 100.

You know, a few helicopters, by the way, we never went over 100 cashews on a whole period of time.

But now you get your little Vietnamese.

Oh, they were hanging around Cambodia.

That's correct.

They were prepared to be killed as much as... Did they get calm yesterday?

Well, the VC got calm.

In Cambodia?

Yes, in Cambodia.

The 74, they killed 300.

They could have, you know, they might have ambushed a bunch and shot them off.

No, I'll tell you one thing.

The economic thing.

There's a whole lot of good things going on here.

We've just got to start talking about it.

I may, by the way, I might have one right now.

The economic thing.

That's the man's job.

Sure is.

You know, it's kind of over, isn't it?

I realize it's that high.

For God's sake.

Our, all the great industrial nations below us.

Now they're still too goddamn high.

They don't know what it's supposed to do.

Nothing for the return of the Japanese.

Well, because of the difference.

See, their systems are designed to go at it.

The British have the

And the Italians, of course, always have a plunge.

Our plunge is, well, the thing about what we have to rely on in Latin America is that the unemployed Americans, the people of rural American America, look better than 85% of the people who were, because they're jailed in God.

There isn't any country in Latin America that has per capita income, including Mexico, as high as a rural American or second in the United States.

No country in Latin America.

No country in Africa.

Those people who work in New York City, they live out there.

You understand?

No country in Africa.

No country in South Asia.

None.

I don't know how many of you know that.

We're just living high on a hog.

I think it always is.

That's the point.

Somebody ought to make sure I know this.

This is Tom Shepard, you know, right?

Yeah, I saw it.

It was something.

It was something about him.

Really?

Well, I told him, all right, no, my weekly news reading file, actually, was at an argument.

I said, you kicked the shit out of him.

He gave another speech, and he said, we're in a ding-a-ling here and there.

A ding-a-ling?

Yeah.

That's the only way you can describe it.

Yeah.

Either we're in.

Yeah.

Because...

He said, he's got a great gift.

He says he tuned in the mess, got rained out on a TV game.

It's the same thing as you guys.

I think you saw that show by accident.

He was watching the mess on a TV game and it got rained out so he checked the other channels.

Got a talk show.

I have another one.

Featuring a man who was a little worried about the environment.

He wanted everybody else to worry along with him.

That's the way he put it.

For all this great work, I'm defensive in losing 6-0, so I stayed tuned for the time to go anyway.

Participants with the kind of people who frequently appear on television to analyze the complex technological problems associated with air and water pollution.

They included a nightclub remedian, a retired architect, and a Connecticut housewife, two lawyers, and a 20-year-old college student majoring in social unrest.

As one of the lawyers, a serious young man with a blazing mustache did most of the talking.

He began by stating, matter of fact, it would be because of the rapid deterioration of our environment that Grimm would become uninhabitable by the year 2000 and all of his money would end.

Now Ryan scarcely absorbed this jolly kiss when he followed her with another one.

This one concerned the population, so according to the same young lawyer, the number of people on Earth will double in the next 30 years and will redouble in the 25 years after that.

So by the year 2025, there'll be 14 billion people on this planet, all of them scrabbling for food, water, and living space.

Well, that didn't make any sense.

The guy at first said, there won't be anybody here by 2000.

Then he said, there's going to be 14 billion by 2025.

He said, I waited for someone on the panel to point out the flaw.

The polluted environment's going to kill every human being on Earth by 2000.

Where are we going to get the 14 billion by 2025?

To my surprise, the point was never raised.

In fact, the other panelists kept nodding their heads.

The moderator went out of his way to compliment the unwarranted, elusive presentation.

The first of them was the studio audience.

You can finish, then you can go to the next stop.

He says, I'm convinced that there's a gloomy number of highly esteemed and influential citizens who are convinced that the human race is on the verge of multiplying and expiring simultaneously.

Great.

And there's a pronounced tendency for Americans to part with Margalis out on the benefit.

They say they subscribe.

These angling people are united on one basic and very dangerous platform.

They subscribe to a common premise.

The United States of America is in bad shape morally and physically.

Things are getting worse.

Big business is the chief culprit.

And unless the establishment is overturned, the Jurassic Reforms Institute, we are all doomed to economic, social, and environmental catastrophe.

Great.

And he talks about his disaster lobby, and he goes into the, he just blasts Ralph Nader out of the sky.

I mean, he's got, there's some stuff he might want to use at some point.

Because he makes the point that the statistics are right.

He says, Ralph Nader, six years ago, started on auto safety with his camera.

He said, the fallacy in Nader's thesis, which was that people are being killed on the highways and they're voting in to redesign their automobiles, was that the total number of highway deaths in the United States had dropped 40,000 in 1937 to 38,000 in 1961.

In spite of the fact that there were a billion more people driving cars, of course, and the number of deaths per 100 million miles, which is the basic safety standard, had dropped from 18.2 in 1925, that's traffic deaths per 100 million miles of traffic, 18.2 in 1925 to 5.1 in 1965.

So, he said, between 25 and 60, he wanted the American automotive industry entirely without the benefit of Ralph Nader, and improve his products to such an extent that cars were more than three times as safe in terms of the value of the cars.

Three times as fast.

Of course.

And he says, and then along came Nader.

and in his turbulent wake belong him compulsory seat belts, compulsory shoulder harnesses, massive callbacks of vehicles, and enough rules and directives and guidelines to satisfy the motard reader of my credit on what has happened to the motor vehicle death rate during the Navy's young time.

Nothing at all.

The 60s was the first decade in history in which there was no decrease in highway deaths per 100 million traveled by.

The rate was 5.3 in 1960 and it was 5.3 in 1969.

This whole record, I would suspect, is the product of the priority changes forced on Detroit by the Navy.

I mean, this is just to help with the statistics.

I mean, it goes on about Adrian Hicks about air pollution.

It makes the point that, yeah, when I hear that, it pounces the air.

The truth is that the quality of air of over just about every city in the United States has been improving for many years, and air we breathe today is far superior to the air breathed by our grandparents.

Air pollution reached the top in America a hundred years ago when soft coal was the primary fuel.

Then private industry, without any prodding from the ecologists, developed substances for soft coal such as fuel oil and natural gas, and the air started to age earlier.

And he goes on, he says, in every city where analyses are made, such as pollution in Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Boston, Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, among others, the records show the nature of air pollution for the last decade, year by year, decreases in pollution.

Of course, that's partly because, and he said this is partly because they pushed one, but there is some pollution problem.

And he gets to water pollution, and he quotes, he had a bit of technologic wisdom in Northwestern, and another guy at Columbia, he says, one thing they say, the amount of oxygen in the air has disappeared.

And he says, that's ridiculous.

The amount of oxygen is precisely the same today as it was in 1910.

And the oxygen in seawater is just the same as it ever was, and there was no danger in the 1880s.

and about water pollution.

Now this, even in his Northwestern thing, says, he cries the emotionally exaggerated views of water pollution and says, never in history has the quality of water supply been better.

Water, you can hear it on the point.

But that's why he says, in 1900, the typhoid death rate in Chicago was 90 per 100,000 population.

Today, the rate is 1 in 1,000 per 100,000 population.

There is no death in Chicago, in fact, when we go over to Panama.

And he talks about building the Lake Erie thing.

Remember they told us Lake Erie was dead?

Yeah.

Since I've said it, yeah.

Lake Erie is too alive, if anything.

McCord, our director of U.S. Geological Survey, it gets tremendous amounts of natural organic material from beaker streams that provide food for fish.

As a result, more fish today are harvested from Lake Erie than from all the other Great Lakes combined.

And they eat them.

Yeah.

Then he says, incidentally, they keep cleaning the industry for water pollution.

85% of all the pollution in lakes and rivers is the product of municipal sewage.

All of that, I want to get, I really want, I think we've got to get rid of it.

Or no, no.

John, it isn't his fault.

God damn it.

Let's put it to the... Then he hits BDT from the Ecology Association.

Yeah, BDT.

Yeah.

He said BBT has saved the lives of literally tens of millions of human beings and it has never harmed a single person except in case of accidental misuse.

Then in 1962 Rachel Carson wrote her book and did not denounce BBT as a poison or some species of birds and fish.

The disaster lobbies sensing another opportunity to halt progress ran off to Washington to campaign for a ban on BBT and Washington of course gave them their ban.

And then what happened?

People got sick and people died.

It's like Salon.

One country, the use of DDT imported from the United States had reduced the number of malaria cases to 150 per year by 1961, according to the World Health Organization, and the number of deaths by malaria to zero.

When we cut off the, when the US cut off DDT, Salon abandoned the use of DDT a couple of years ago.

By 1968,

The number of malaria cases in Ceylon had climbed to over 2 billion.

12,000 Ceylon residents are dying of malaria each year, but there were none in 1961.

All the mosquitoes die and nobody gets bit by mosquitoes so they don't get malaria.

We stop the DDT, the mosquitoes start breeding, the malaria starts.

Our whole forest land, we've stopped DDT, the gypsy moth has been back and the gypsy moth has been spread out on how many million acres of forest land.

It's incredible.

Because they won't let them spray the DDT.

Listen, let me say this.

I don't want them to write me about them.

I don't want them to write me about it, trying to restrict it.

I want you to send this to Whitley and say, these are my views.

This representative represents my views.

Prepare me to speak to him on these lines.

I'd like to have it by the end of the century.

To do that, he had some population explosion too.

He says the birth rate in every major country in the globe, including Africa and Asia, has been dropping steadily and substantially for over 25 years.

In the U.S., the birth rate is now 17 per thousand, which is the lowest since the depression of the 30s, and less than a third of what it was 150 years ago.

And our death rate remained constant until the birth rates got down from 9.6 in 1950 to 9.6 today.

By the year 2037, we'll be at zero growth.

Other countries have reached zero growth long before.

Even Poland already has had a six-year decline.

They said it's another red herring copied out by the disaster.

They said, why are they doing this?

I think the answer is that they are basically opposed to the free enterprise system and will do anything they can to bolster their gates for additional government controls over industry.

I agree.

That underlines that argument.

But you know, one of the things, you know, much as we like it, that is one of the things, one of the things is point of hand contribution.

with his head, you know, one of them would come in and say, they're gonna burn all the cities.

Remember, he said, they're gonna murder everybody.

You know, I didn't know what to say, and I didn't know the truth.

Then he said, he came up with this idea that they're gonna be in the population, and we put out a message in the population.

We put out a, and frankly, I got sucked into this goddamn environment, didn't want to hear about it.

I still do not believe, I still do not believe that's a hot issue.

That was his question.

That was his creation.

I know that not, look, on our whole life, I see, if you do one thing, Colston Harris is going to fall for it.

Now, I want Colston to get after Harris.

And I want to be sure that in that poll we get out the questions of jobs versus the environment.

I don't want the environment to just explode.

I want Harris to read this speech.

You know what I mean?

I don't want him to come up with all the usual cliches.

You know, I had him on the bullpen for a long time.

But that's something that's good.

And we'll get him in America forever.

And that makes me value him.

He's smart as hell.

You know, he doesn't work his hand, if I think, on who's going to win the election or try to beat him.

But he is much better than, say, Tom Bennett on...

That's what he's good at.

And that's what, that's what I mean.

So Veneman's the guy who will go for it on our, right, on his goal.

On his goal.

Because Veneman got loaded one way or another.

Harris will allow his emotions to live.

But Harris is extremely good at this thing.

Don't you think so, Jess?

To put it this way, he knows what questions to ask.

You don't have to ask him.

He's been asking questions in chapters for years, and then you ask questions in chapters, and then you... God, that's a good speech.

I think we all get it.

Well, I kind of think that he had some thinking, you know, that...

trying to take over the operations business.

He says, my quarrel's not with all consumer advocates.

They're all environmentalists.

But there are others who seem to destroy our institutions without offering any viable alternative.

So using an American consumer as a consumer is a flawed and vicious game with no rules and the highest stakes measure.

Look, Bob.

The thing on the consumer is, now, I know it's a big issue.

They say, we've got a consumer lady running around.

Maybe there needs to be a voice that says something, that says, this is all a bunch of crap now, kids.

Yeah, you know, well, it gets to the citizen.

Quit running down the United States, quit running down our system and so forth and so on.

I don't know.

He says, he says, conditions are generally improving.

The best way to improve them even more is to foster not indeed the efforts of the great institutions that have made America what it is.

Let's help them get on with the job, uninjured by last nine laws and capricious regulations.

He sure writes well.

As I wait patiently for some of my countrymen to get back on the track, without a sense, I find myself increasingly optimistic.

I see more and more signs of the era of loopiness may be coming to an end.

What's he saying?

Not long ago, England Brewster, the illustrious president of Yale University, admitted that a black revolutionary can't get a fair trial in the United States.

I had about 3,000 votes for Dr. Brewster, and I'm happy to see that he's getting better.

This is just the other day a United States Senator talked back to Ralph Nader and he did a right smack in front of the fellow campaigner.

This is fortunately a bit of a rational day here in America.

It never lasts too long.

We had a cold rush deeper before the Civil War and Carbon Fiber may get its back with the war and planning to use this area in the 1920s.

General McCarthy turned away in the 50s, but we always snap out of it.

I've heard a few encouraging snaps in the past two or three months to give me heart.

I'm convinced that five years from now, the disaster of obvious will be no more than a dusty memory.

The disaster of obvious is the phrase that I want to do.

And a year of indignaling will be over.

I think the essential silence of America is of the time President Nixon alluded to in a recent speech, and I'd like to close my own talk by quoting from his.

He quoted, he said, the time has come to answer the false charge that this is an ugly country.

The time has come to defend America, which is truly an ugly country.

No country has stood more firmly than she, and more just as she is just and more generous than she has been.

But if you are deserting the praise of her people in America, let us love America, let us love America.

She's strong, she's rich, because America is a good country and we can do it better.

He sent me a note, Thomas, he kind of sent me a letter card.

He said, just to keep your file, he was trying to warn me, he sent me a letter.

And he said, fortunately, I bought it.

It was a marvelous book, President Nixon put it to good use.

And that brought the 600 up there and beat charity.

Sometimes when he's down, getting down, it'd just be good for me to talk to him.

Does he talk well?

Yeah.

No, he talks well.

He's a hell of a good book.

Does he write this?

I don't know.

I think so.

Oh, he can write this.

Jesus Christ, Father, you're missing something.

Now there's a guy, there's a guy that writes basically like I talk.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Doesn't it, or doesn't it?

I mean, that's the way I like it.

You know, I like to sing it out, and I don't...

It's basically Buchanan's crisp writing, but with more lift to it.

And it's got color, too.

Color, that's right.

It's got some fun in it.

That's what I meant, more fun in it.

It's getting difficult to sort them out with the non-crack box.

I think we've got to use the term crack box, too, you know, a little bit of that.

Okay.

Any names who may pursue a broad assortment of causes.

They're the lawyers who suddenly decided they were consumers.

They're the housewives who overnight became experts on ecology.

They're the student revolutionaries and the bra-burning women who have had the guts of gun-toting black elephants.

The weekend socialists and the hardcore anarchists and the anarcho-facko fanatics.

All of the other highly vocal activists who make a lot of headlines in our community centers.

I couldn't read hard with one hater.

He had to develop a poetry or maybe a pun or something like that.

And he listed the delusions that are being hoisted on Americans.

The concept is the concept that when a crime is committed, the person who deserves it in a decent way is the criminal, not the victim, not the policeman.

The concept that the primary purpose of a university is to provide a place in which students can educate each other.

The concept that's ignited and unseated by the pro-capital candidate for the presidency that the real heroes today are not the young Americans who are fighting and dying for us in Asia, but the young Americans who run off to Canada to do this boycott.

The concept that the United States, the only country in the world, has laws not only to protect minority groups, but to provide them with a special health and housing education and job training, that this nation is a racist nation.

The concept that it's wrong to be prejudiced against other people unless the other people happen to be hard-hat construction workers, career army officers, southern whites, or spirogynex, in which case it's right to be prejudiced.

The concept that when North Vietnamese troops ruthlessly attack another country, it's an act of self-determination.

But when American troops go in to help defend that country, it's an invasion of law.

The concept that cigarette smoking should be outlawed, that marijuana smoking should be made legal.

And perhaps most of all, the concept that despite statistics showing that the average American lives twice as long as his great-great-grandparents, enjoys independently better health, has five years more school, works half as many hours, earns ten times the real income,

and possess the luxuries and dreams of a century ago, despite all this, we're somehow worse off today.

It's just exactly what he's saying, what you keep saying, someone's gotta say.

I don't know if this is realistic or not, but I'll work it off.

Oh, I understand, I understand.

See, I'm gonna be in here, meet with that environmental commissioner, and make sure that he sounds exactly like you or this.

He talks about the disaster, Robbie, and that's precisely what the argument is.

I do not dispute for one moment the sincerity and dedication of these people who seek radical change in our country.

They honestly believe in what they are doing.

But some of the most appalling outrages in history have been perpetrated by sincere, dedicated people.

I'm afraid this is what's happening in our country at this time.

With all their sincerity and dedication, they have one bolder writing thought.

They are almost totally devoid of useful knowledge relating to the subjects in which they are involved and about which they talk and write and petition on.

Pretty good.

This takes a lot to do.

First of all, will you make a copy and just have one of them all over the place?

And put your own underlining on it, put it in your mind.

Second, I want you to get over the Christ shot to shake up those people.

Third, I want you, I want to direct into a deadpan, rather than just read this speech, you know, what I read, you know, a girl to a girl from a man.

I want to prepare me a speech on the environment, putting the things in perspective, and preparing me a brief speech.

Do you think so?

Do you think it's a good idea?

I think that both Johns, and I'm kidding when I talk about the environment, but I'm not kidding.

I think the God man makes the only issue.

There's a phrase that says, I hope that me and you or somebody came out and said it, but the hell, a lot of people jump up and say, thank God.

That's right.

I think it's the only issue, and I think we're going all the while on all these sewers.

I think this is good.

meters of dollars in water and so forth, hydrogen, you know.

And I just thought I would be sick of it down there.

must say that there is a political issue.

You know, that's an awfully easy, that's a terribly negative way to approach something.

Let us suppose, for example, I had to handle the war in Vietnam that way.

You say, well, the majority of the people really want to bug out of Vietnam at the end of the year.

So therefore, in order, as a defensive maneuver, I've got to bug out sooner.

And that's basically the kind of argument that they've used on the environment.

Well, Musk, he's got to go further.

So you've got to go further than he does.

And on the consumerism.

Well, Nader said all this, but you've got to cop the issues by doing something else.

They don't mind.

They haven't gone further than they tried to undercut.

I know.

I guess that's got to change.

OK.

That's pretty great.

Great way to end it.