Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 269 › Conversation 269-013

Nixon & Hodgson on Steel Industry and Labor Negotiations

Tuesday, August 3, 1971 · 9:57 AM–9:58 AM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Hodgson, James D.Conversation269-013 on Tape 269 (tape position 01:40:44–01:43:07)StartTuesday, August 3, 1971 at 9:57 AMEndTuesday, August 3, 1971 at 9:58 AMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 269-013 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Secretary of Labor James D. Hodgson to commend him and his team for their successful mediation of the recent steel industry labor negotiations. The President expressed his satisfaction with the settlement and the handling of subsequent price increases, acknowledging the dedicated efforts of Hodgson, Willie J. Usery, Jr., and J. Curtis Counts. Nixon instructed Hodgson to ensure that all involved parties received formal recognition for their contributions before Hodgson took personal leave.

Steel Industry
Labor Negotiations
Collective Bargaining
James D. Hodgson
Price Increases
Economic Policy

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NARA Description

On August 3, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and James D. Hodgson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:57 am to 9:58 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 269-013 of the White House Tapes.

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Conversation No. 269-13

Date: August 3, 1971
Time: 9:57 am - 9:58 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with James D. Hodgson.

     Steel settlement
           -President's appreciation for Hodgson's work
           -Call to [Willie J. Usery, Jr.]
           -Call to J. Curtis Counts
           -Hodgson's briefing
           -Price increase
           -President’s appreciation for Hodgson’s and others’ work

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So, yeah.

Hello.

But again, the boys really did a great job, and I don't know if you've covered your sleep, but I wanted to tell you that we're going to take off in a few days.

Huh?

Yeah.

Around the department?

Yeah.

You weren't there very much, were you?

Sure, sure.

Absolutely.

Yeah, I thought, I didn't, I didn't call, I thought I'm going to call Kurt Trump too.

And I don't, I won't.

Well, I'll tell you, great job.

And you did a fine briefing too.

The company is great and their prices are not unanticipated.

And, uh, actually, it's one of those things.

Okay, well, I mean, Matthew, you just did something good.

They thought you'd be kind of a good partner.

You were out and about.

Yeah, you tell us.

I want you to follow that verse.

There are lots of other people down in the shop at work.

We'll be sure to take it to work.

We should wait.

But they all ought to know.

Also recorded on August 3, 1971

269-009 9:48 AM · 42 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:48 am and 9:53 am.
269-010 9:48 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:48 am and 9:53 am.
269-011 9:48 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:48 am and 9:53 am.
269-012 9:53 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Willie J. Usery, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:53 am to 9:56 am.
269-014 9:59 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and J. Curtis Counts met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:59 am to 10:02 am.
269-015 10:02 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:02 am and 10:19 am.
269-016 10:02 AM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:02 am and 10:19 am.
269-017 10:02 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:02 am and 10:19 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 269-013, August 3, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/269-013 (accessed November 1, 2026).