{"conversationCode":"270-003","tapeNumber":270,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-270-003","startDateTime":"1971-08-03T19:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-08-03T19:55:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Aug-1971","startTime":"3:50 PM","endDate":"3-Aug-1971","endTime":"3:55 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On August 3, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:50 pm to 3:55 pm. 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Kissinger.\n\n     Telephone call\n          -Peking\n\n     Forthcoming press conference\n          -Possible question\n               -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]\n                     -Mack Truck deal\n                           -Kama River Project\n                           -Foundry\n                                -Approval\n                                      -Announcement\n                                -Cost\n                           -Senate Foreign Relations Committee\n                                -Kissinger’s appearance\n\nAn unknown person entered at an unknown time between 3:50 pm and 3:55 pm.\n\n     Request\n\nThe unknown person left at an unknown time between 3:50 pm and 3:55 pm.\n\n     William P. Rogers\n          -John Foster Dulles\n          -Liberals\n\n     Forthcoming press conference\n          -Possible question\n               -Vietnam\n                     -David K.E. Bruce\n                           -Departure\n                                -Welcome by President\n\nKissinger left at 3:55 pm.","filename":["270a.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:07:17","tapeEnd":"00:17:54","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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