{"conversationCode":"271-004","tapeNumber":271,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-271-004","startDateTime":"1971-08-04T14:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-08-04T14:17:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Aug-1971","startTime":"10:10 AM","endDate":"4-Aug-1971","endTime":"10:17 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Shultz, George P.;","description":"On August 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and George P. Shultz met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:10 am to 10:17 am. 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Shultz.\n\n     National economy\n          -Unemployment\n                -Figures\n                -Dan Rather\n                -Press\n          -News summary\n                -News magazines\n                     -Stock Market\n                     -Political angle\n                     -Indicators\n                           -Retail sales\n                           -Construction\n                           -Housing\n                           -Inflation\n\n     President’s schedule\n          -Forthcoming meeting\n                -President’s possible comments","filename":["271-004-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:25:58","tapeEnd":"03:40:22","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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