{"conversationCode":"272-014","tapeNumber":272,"conversationNumber":14,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-272-014","startDateTime":"1971-08-11T19:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-08-11T19:52:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Aug-1971","startTime":"3:45 PM","endDate":"11-Aug-1971","endTime":"3:52 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Shultz, George P.;","description":"On August 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and George P. Shultz met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 3:52 pm. 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Flanigan's schedule\n\n     President's schedule\n           -Shultz's forthcoming conversation with Peterson\n\n     National security powers\n          -Textiles\n                -John N. Mitchell\n                -Flanigan","filename":["272-014.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:01:20","tapeEnd":"02:02:56","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Shultz, George P."],"prevCode":"272-013","nextCode":"272-015","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":17.59,"text":"I wondered if you could delay and charge 15 minutes so that I could get maybe you and Ray can come over and I want to just talk to the two of you a little bit about these things."},{"start":17.61,"end":20.92,"text":"Yeah, maybe at 4.30 if you and Ray can come over first and then I'll see what I want to see."},{"start":20.94,"end":27.41,"text":"I don't know if it's regular or not, but if you want to break something in, I need some time on that."},{"start":27.79,"end":38.44,"text":"All right, I need to talk about Peterson."},{"start":38.46,"end":39.34,"text":"It's 5.30."},{"start":39.36,"end":48.09,"text":"What I think you ought to do is to get Kent planning and sort of go through the data."},{"start":48.11,"end":48.37,"text":"Please go on."},{"start":48.77,"end":50.78,"text":"Okay, well, tell Peter I want to, I'm just tired of this."},{"start":50.8,"end":52.88,"text":"I don't know what to do."},{"start":52.9,"end":56.02,"text":"There's a bunch of things to do."},{"start":56.16,"end":56.26,"text":"Okay."},{"start":56.95,"end":74.21,"text":"because I don't think it's that kind of money."},{"start":74.23,"end":76.52,"text":"Metro wants to use this national security for ROVs and stuff like that."},{"start":76.64,"end":83.63,"text":"The problem came with it, and Flannigan was strong in his hard line of fellowship."},{"start":83.65,"end":85.81,"text":"He started down that trail, and it was handled, it was solved, and I suppose 5,000, 18,000 other problems."},{"start":85.83,"end":86.77,"text":"So it was just a temptation to go on something."},{"start":88.19,"end":96.07,"text":"We shall see."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with George P. 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