{"conversationCode":"273-041","tapeNumber":273,"conversationNumber":41,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-273-041","startDateTime":"1971-08-15T21:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-08-15T23:14:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Aug-1971","startTime":"5:43 PM","endDate":"15-Aug-1971","endTime":"7:14 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Safire, William L.; Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On August 15, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, William L. Safire, and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:43 pm and 7:14 pm. 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Burns\n                     -Dollar stabilization\n                           -Devaluation\n           -Wording\n\nWoods left at an unknown time before 7:14 pm.","filename":["273-041-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:03:17","tapeEnd":"04:10:23","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Safire, William L.","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"273-040","nextCode":"273-042","tapeTranscriptFile":"273a.mp3,273b.mp3,273c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":14673.81,"end":14673.9,"text":"you"},{"start":14686,"end":14692.9,"text":"And I'll change it online after that."},{"start":14776.49,"end":14778.09,"text":"Just leave it with me."},{"start":14782.97,"end":14784.7,"text":"Leave it with me."},{"start":14784.74,"end":14786.72,"text":"Leave it with me."},{"start":14786.8,"end":14789.76,"text":"Leave it with me."},{"start":14824.5,"end":14841.8,"text":"I think you better stand over there."},{"start":14850.84,"end":14852.4,"text":"Fine, fine, I'll assert the word."},{"start":14852.56,"end":14854.5,"text":"You don't have to type the page."},{"start":14854.52,"end":14855.4,"text":"Don't type the page."},{"start":14855.42,"end":14858.22,"text":"No, he's right about that."},{"start":14858.24,"end":14860.54,"text":"I put things like that, you know, in comparison."},{"start":14861.52,"end":14864.16,"text":"You don't have to type the page."},{"start":14864.18,"end":14865.78,"text":"Well, he's right about the line, correct?"},{"start":14874.86,"end":14878.18,"text":"All right, please."},{"start":14889.87,"end":14890.69,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":14890.75,"end":14890.89,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":14890.91,"end":14900.53,"text":"Bill, on that, any other changes ?"},{"start":14900.65,"end":14902.31,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":14902.67,"end":14907.79,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":14907.81,"end":14908.69,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":14908.77,"end":14913.91,"text":"That's a very good idea."},{"start":14917.06,"end":14917.82,"text":"We haven't set a go-round yet."},{"start":14917.84,"end":14924.87,"text":"I don't have it yet, but that's perfectly all right."},{"start":14925.03,"end":14926.27,"text":"I don't mind it there."},{"start":14926.35,"end":14930.19,"text":"Bye, Michael."},{"start":14931.37,"end":14931.57,"text":"Bye."},{"start":14932.09,"end":14932.27,"text":"Good."},{"start":14935.41,"end":14936.67,"text":"We have an issue here."},{"start":14936.91,"end":14940.18,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":14940.24,"end":14941.34,"text":"All right."},{"start":14941.4,"end":14941.62,"text":"Bye."},{"start":14941.9,"end":14944.76,"text":"I am insisting, or I shall insist,"},{"start":14947.48,"end":14947.62,"text":"Great."},{"start":14947.64,"end":14950.92,"text":"How do you feel about their arrest of the cyclone?"},{"start":14950.94,"end":14951.54,"text":"Is it bothering you?"},{"start":14951.56,"end":14953.5,"text":"Is he all right on it?"},{"start":14953.52,"end":14953.64,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":14953.66,"end":14957.52,"text":"The hostage?"},{"start":14957.54,"end":14957.72,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":14959.16,"end":14967.25,"text":"One sentence I think, Bill, is worth putting in, if I may suggest, because it was a hard response."},{"start":14967.27,"end":14973.83,"text":"It just occurred to me, though, to sit here now, and I'll see if I can find it."},{"start":14976.35,"end":14981.73,"text":"You know, Arthur points out that, really, this is not a deregulation, but a stabilization of the dollar."},{"start":14982.41,"end":14984.73,"text":"And the place that should go in is the..."},{"start":14985.05,"end":15001.41,"text":"In the long run, then, will be stabilized around it, not devalued."},{"start":15002.07,"end":15003.69,"text":"Why not say that?"},{"start":15007.31,"end":15007.55,"text":"."},{"start":15008.03,"end":15008.17,"text":"."},{"start":15008.89,"end":15009.05,"text":"."},{"start":15009.07,"end":15009.09,"text":"."},{"start":15045.92,"end":15054.06,"text":"Well, that's all they need to see, is that the rest of it they should see, because they ought to be in surprise, too."},{"start":15054.08,"end":15056.5,"text":"They want to walk in to listen."},{"start":15056.54,"end":15064.95,"text":"And also, we... 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