{"conversationCode":"274-005","tapeNumber":274,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-274-005","startDateTime":"1971-08-16T18:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-08-16T18:43:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Aug-1971","startTime":"2:40 PM","endDate":"16-Aug-1971","endTime":"2:43 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On August 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:40 pm to 2:43 pm. 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Ehrlichman.\n\n     Economy\n         -President’s address to the National, “The Challenge of Peace”, August 15, 1971\n               -Reaction\n                    -Stock market\n                          -Volume\n                    -Timing\n                    -Confidence builder\n                    -Shock value\n                    -Confidence\n                    -Stock market\n               -Forthcoming State Department briefing\n               -Press conference\n                    -John B. Connally\n                          -Performance\n               -Cabinet meeting, August 16, 1971","filename":["274a.mp3","274b.mp3","274c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:05:35","tapeEnd":"00:08:51","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"274-004","nextCode":"274-006","tapeTranscriptFile":"274a.mp3,274b.mp3,274c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":346.91,"end":352.77,"text":"Sorry, I had quite a day the other night."},{"start":353.05,"end":354.69,"text":"Hanging around 31 before each other."},{"start":356.5,"end":376.45,"text":"In terms of the summer day, of course, it will not be the biggest day due to the value, but in terms of summer value, it's going to be probably double almost any summer day in the year."},{"start":376.63,"end":382.07,"text":"That's good."},{"start":382.67,"end":383.55,"text":"It'll shake sometimes."},{"start":385.13,"end":388.93,"text":"And, you know, we're going to deal with it."},{"start":388.95,"end":389.61,"text":"We're going to deal with it."},{"start":389.63,"end":396.98,"text":"But all the general reaction, I think, is better than we expected."},{"start":397.44,"end":399.16,"text":"Better than we expected."},{"start":400.93,"end":403.11,"text":"Right."},{"start":403.69,"end":428.56,"text":"And it may be a confidence that that's what we need to be talking about, you know."},{"start":430.94,"end":449.96,"text":"this first market that may that may let it ride a second yeah okay i'll turn it over to him"},{"start":452.12,"end":456.82,"text":"He says, well, I thought I ought to go over and give him a little shout in the air."},{"start":456.84,"end":459.86,"text":"And I don't want to come at him to work."},{"start":459.94,"end":460.9,"text":"He's terribly tired."},{"start":460.96,"end":465.56,"text":"And I just told him to wipe it up and not to let somebody else move the back part."},{"start":465.58,"end":469.79,"text":"So they say he did a hell of a job on the press conference."},{"start":469.81,"end":472.39,"text":"I like the way he cuts them off."},{"start":472.41,"end":472.55,"text":"No, yes."},{"start":475.19,"end":476.55,"text":"He cuts them off, but he doesn't do it meanly."},{"start":477.45,"end":477.87,"text":"That's what I mean."},{"start":477.89,"end":478.97,"text":"He cuts them off."},{"start":479.15,"end":479.37,"text":"No, yes."},{"start":479.73,"end":480.61,"text":"And he smiles the next time."},{"start":482.65,"end":484.09,"text":"Great, great, sure."},{"start":484.17,"end":485.35,"text":"We'll reserve a little more."},{"start":487.47,"end":490.71,"text":"But you know, really, we were in the chemical department."},{"start":491.91,"end":494.33,"text":"Oh, how did that go?"},{"start":494.35,"end":495.29,"text":"Tell me about that."},{"start":497.31,"end":498.81,"text":"Good, good, good."},{"start":503.34,"end":506.64,"text":"That's great."},{"start":506.74,"end":510.22,"text":"Great, great, great."},{"start":510.44,"end":511.7,"text":"Okay, John, thank you."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":326,"end":527,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John Ehrlichman reviewed the positive initial public and market reactions to the President's August 15 economic address. 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