{"conversationCode":"274-023","tapeNumber":274,"conversationNumber":23,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-274-023","startDateTime":"1971-08-16T19:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-08-16T19:53:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Aug-1971","startTime":"3:52 PM","endDate":"16-Aug-1971","endTime":"3:53 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On August 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:52 pm to 3:53 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 274-023 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 274-23\n\nDate: August 16, 1971\nTime: 3:52 pm - 3:53 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Golf\n                -William P. Rogers\n                -Burning Tree\n\n     Ziegler's briefing\n          -Golf\n                 -Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope\n                       -San Clemente\n                 -President’s most recent outing","filename":["274-023-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:30:39","tapeEnd":"00:31:16","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"274-022","nextCode":"274-024","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler held a brief meeting to coordinate messaging regarding the President’s recent leisure activities. The discussion focused on establishing the narrative for upcoming golf outings involving William P. Rogers at Burning Tree and Bob Hope in San Clemente. This interaction served to ensure consistent public communication regarding the administration's recreational schedule.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Golf","Public relations","Ronald Ziegler","William P. Rogers","Bob Hope"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T12:44:48.366Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","golf","public-relations","ronald-l-ziegler","william-p-rogers","bob-hope"],"audioDurationSec":31,"audioFiles":[{"file":"274-023-splice.mp3","bytes":498252,"durationSec":31.11,"bitrate":128118,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-10-27T04:37:30.098Z","originalFilename":["274a.mp3","274b.mp3","274c.mp3"],"spliceSource":{"spliceType":"bigtape","sourceFiles":["274a.mp3"],"cutStart":1846.41,"cutEnd":1877.5,"adjustedStart":1846.41,"adjustedEnd":1877.5,"boundaryMethod":"llm-alignment","confidence":"high","splicedAt":"2026-10-27T04:37:30.098Z"},"transcript":[{"start":1850.24,"end":1862.1,"text":"I'm working out that Rogers took the play as an all-terrain treatment, and so he became the president, and he now is the developer, and now he's the president, and he's been working on it a lot."},{"start":1862.12,"end":1867.55,"text":"And also he comes, he gave my name, and this is the name of the version I wrote about."},{"start":1867.57,"end":1870.85,"text":"He gave it all to all of us, and he promised to do it."},{"start":1870.87,"end":1875.41,"text":"And I play with it, and it's not a whole lot, but it's pretty nice."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":1847.91,"end":1876,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/274-023-splice.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/274-023","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/274/conversation-274-023","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}