{"conversationCode":"275-003","tapeNumber":275,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-275-003","startDateTime":"1971-09-07T16:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-07T16:26:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Sep-1971","startTime":"12:20 PM","endDate":"7-Sep-1971","endTime":"12:26 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On September 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:20 pm to 12:26 pm. 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