{"conversationCode":"275-028","tapeNumber":275,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-275-028","startDateTime":"1971-09-07T21:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-07T21:50:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Sep-1971","startTime":"5:43 PM","endDate":"7-Sep-1971","endTime":"5:50 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On September 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:43 pm and 5:50 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 275-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 275-028\n\nDate: September 7, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 5:43 pm and 5:50 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n[See Conversation No. 008-039]\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/10/2017.\nSegment cleared for release]","filename":["275-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:01:22","tapeEnd":"02:02:02","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"275-027","nextCode":"275-029","transcript":[{"start":3.95,"end":11.27,"text":"Say, I'm between drafts, and I thought maybe I would come over and have an early interview."},{"start":11.37,"end":15.61,"text":"Do you want to have something yet now, or want to wait?"},{"start":17.54,"end":21.24,"text":"Shall we talk about..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator before placing a brief personal call to First Lady Pat Nixon. The discussion centered on coordinating their evening plans and assessing whether the First Lady wished to meet immediately or wait until later. No substantive policy matters were addressed, as the conversation served as a routine scheduling check-in between the President and his wife.","topics":["Pat Nixon","Scheduling","Personal correspondence","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T12:49:44.925Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","scheduling","personal-correspondence","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":21,"audioFiles":[{"file":"275-028.mp3","bytes":859358,"durationSec":21.35,"bitrate":322063,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.008Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:14.749Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/275-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/275-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/275/conversation-275-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}