Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 277-003 Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1971 at 11:05 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L. Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/277-003 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [4:11] I probably would be questioning this. [5:08] Apparently he has, according to John's conversation with the governor this morning, apparently the governor feels that there's an outside influence on the actions of the inmates. [5:27] Oh, the person in order to bring a confrontation. [5:30] That's a very good line to take. [5:31] Don't let your little left-wingers out there liberals make you think it isn't. [5:35] It's kind of like the more occurring... [5:38] I don't think there's a question about it. [5:45] No. [5:46] What I want you to do is to simply say that the president is a dominant public official. [6:23] He had a very hard decision, and the president doesn't believe him. [6:30] I'm not going to discuss details, this is not the White House. [6:43] We don't know to what degree the situation was deteriorating. [6:47] The governor stayed in New York and was on the scene. [6:49] The governor called and reported to us. [6:51] After the morning call, I had a person I said, I didn't call her. [6:58] After the action, I said, if we can play that game, we'll do it. [7:01] Well, we don't do it. [7:04] We don't do it. [7:06] That's a statement. [7:08] Okay, I want you to get your... Let's see, I'll just stay right on it, please. [7:15] One other question. [7:16] I don't see whether I can say it. [7:18] I'll ask a question. [7:47] I don't want to say that, and I'm going to do everything not to say that, but the question may come in such a way by, you know, a guy who's not going to say this, but he travels abroad and runs into this situation. [8:18] It's a galvanized crew function. [8:21] Oh, of course. [8:21] It's described in Latin America, Peru, and Burma. [8:27] I'm trying to move around a lot this program. [8:57] I noticed the Time magazine name. [9:52] I think that the idea that the president is a man who has to make a part of the city, right? [10:03] Yes.