Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 277-023 Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1971 at 4:44 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Shultz, George P. Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/277-023 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [2:06:16] Hello. [2:06:20] George, you know, when you were talking about the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, [2:06:28] We have the, we were talking about the second quarter, which is, I remember, this is the third quarter of this year, and this year is the third one. [2:06:39] So, it looks like the third quarter of next year is the first time, which is the beginning, that we want to back down to. [2:06:48] Let me ask you. [2:07:02] Good, good, good. [2:07:06] Let me ask another thing. [2:07:12] It seems to me that, in terms of what I... [2:07:39] It's very important to set the stage to uncover perspective. [2:07:42] I think the perspective that is needed now is mainly to indicate that it's going to be effective. [2:07:50] What I've had is, you and I know that we have the slightest idea how it's going to be negative, but we have some ideas about it. [2:07:57] But on the other hand, I think we've got the indication that it will be a follow-up program, and it will be effective to deal with the problems the American people want to deal with. [2:08:09] That you would agree with me. [2:08:12] That has to be strongly stated, or otherwise I think we're going to have a real problem. [2:08:29] But I did deal with it. [2:08:32] And I think we've got to indicate that there will be something other than a request for voluntary cooperation. [2:08:50] I have a program of... [2:08:51] I'll stop there. [2:08:52] Oh, yeah. [2:08:52] Are we going to move back? [2:08:53] What are we going to move back to? [2:08:58] Oh, don't worry. [2:08:59] I'm miles away from all that. [2:09:05] There will be a... [2:09:10] There will be a... [2:09:11] There will be a... [2:09:12] Okay. [2:09:14] Alright, very fine. [2:09:20] Thank you. [2:09:21] Thank you.