{"conversationCode":"278-009","tapeNumber":278,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-278-009","startDateTime":"1971-09-09T17:48:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-09T17:52:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Sep-1971","startTime":"1:48 PM","endDate":"9-Sep-1971","endTime":"1:52 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Finch, Robert H.;","description":"On September 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Robert H. Finch met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:48 pm to 1:52 pm. 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(President)","Finch, Robert H."],"prevCode":"278-008","nextCode":"278-010","transcript":[{"start":1.57,"end":2.01,"text":"Hello."},{"start":5.83,"end":7.98,"text":"We laid a hell of a lot on our laps."},{"start":8.06,"end":9.76,"text":"My daughter, Kirsha, put it very well."},{"start":10.14,"end":17.56,"text":"She said, you know, Daddy, she said economics and charity is all such a thing."},{"start":17.58,"end":24.53,"text":"You didn't make it as interesting, I guess, as you could."},{"start":24.59,"end":25.29,"text":"After, you know."},{"start":29.05,"end":29.67,"text":"supposed to react on."},{"start":29.69,"end":32.3,"text":"In the election year, they don't react that good, usually, though."},{"start":32.34,"end":39.28,"text":"We put the whole plate there."},{"start":39.32,"end":51.13,"text":"You know, if us groups were able to go up and put the revenue sharing, the government, the New York City Commission, to help their reform, and to even help the public, they'd do it all in this session."},{"start":51.17,"end":51.59,"text":"Well, they should."},{"start":51.61,"end":52.51,"text":"Now, that's how we got their ass to do it."},{"start":57.35,"end":63.15,"text":"I thought it was well to really get in the work ethic there, and I did that very hard for a long period of time."},{"start":63.19,"end":63.93,"text":"It was a lot of development."},{"start":65.15,"end":69.03,"text":"It was pretty good."},{"start":69.05,"end":70.89,"text":"It was a bit of a system."},{"start":73.33,"end":74.83,"text":"It was more profitable."},{"start":74.85,"end":79.58,"text":"I had people want to go to work."},{"start":79.69,"end":83.52,"text":"I'd reduce 7.7 to 3.0."},{"start":83.56,"end":83.96,"text":"Say a vote."},{"start":87.99,"end":92.19,"text":"I think the main thing about it is the people who met him."},{"start":92.49,"end":101.2,"text":"You know, like, I told him, you know, I told him, he's a letter out to California, you know, right now, you're really fine, you know."},{"start":101.22,"end":107.24,"text":"I said to him, you know, by the way, you and your wife are fine."},{"start":107.26,"end":107.84,"text":"Or, he's like a very good man."},{"start":118.6,"end":119.18,"text":"Great guy."},{"start":120.32,"end":120.92,"text":"Great boss."},{"start":123.83,"end":124.59,"text":"Great at something."},{"start":128.05,"end":128.27,"text":"Right."},{"start":128.29,"end":135.11,"text":"I think he'd be great."},{"start":135.13,"end":135.51,"text":"Yeah, right."},{"start":136.19,"end":137.6,"text":"And also he's got a hell of a color."},{"start":139.36,"end":147.04,"text":"He's a great color."},{"start":147.1,"end":147.24,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":152.76,"end":159.71,"text":"Very good."},{"start":160.13,"end":160.7,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Robert H. Finch discussed the political strategy surrounding the administration's legislative agenda, specifically focusing on revenue sharing and welfare reform. Nixon emphasized the importance of promoting the work ethic to bolster public support for his economic policies heading into an election year. The pair also exchanged personal pleasantries regarding a mutual acquaintance, affirming the individual's qualifications and professional reputation.","topics":["Revenue Sharing","Welfare Reform","Work Ethic","Economic Policy","Election Year Strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T12:55:44.768Z"},"topicSlugs":["revenue-sharing","welfare-reform","work-ethic","economic-policy","election-year-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":161,"audioFiles":[{"file":"278-009.mp3","bytes":6455171,"durationSec":161.25,"bitrate":320262,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.329Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/278-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/278-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/278/conversation-278-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}