Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 278-033 Date: Monday, September 13, 1971 at 8:50 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Sanchez, Manolo Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/278-033 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] Now is to get your announcement, the announcement of your meeting. [0:09] I would say, I would strongly urge the 23rd to get a much preferred 23rd instead of an annual. [0:18] Much preferred 23rd. [0:19] I know it's all right. [0:21] It's all right. [0:23] You understand? [0:27] They want to be able to have an answer. [0:30] They must know that I went there. [0:34] I've talked to them. [0:37] I've stopped just short of it, but they're very good. [0:42] I've spoken to them every week. [0:46] It's a good one. [0:51] What we have to do is just [1:16] If you're willing to see it through, Mr. [1:19] Senator. [1:20] And that will get us plus three million car channels. [1:26] I strongly lean to that because I don't think the negotiations end. [1:30] It will give us two pints, too, Mr. President. [1:33] It will give us two pints. [1:35] I will do it in two pints. [1:36] At the end of October or early November, I will just announce it. [1:41] We started out retiring ourselves to that line. [2:09] What they want me to do to the players in the stadium is to leave the white-out hotel and speak to the players in Vietnam that high, that high, so you've got to make that move. [2:20] You've got to make that move. [2:24] You've got to make that move. [2:25] You've got to make that move. [2:27] You've got to make that move. [2:30] You've got to make that move. [2:33] You've got to make that move. [2:36] They won't dare to do any of the same work out here today. [2:39] Since we're ordered to, how many of you, at the end of the day, have elected leaders, elected presidents, which is an acronym. [2:50] How many lines in Alabama? [2:53] How many in Colorado at the end of the day? [2:56] That's just a headline. [2:58] I mean, it's true. [3:00] It's seven critical times. [3:02] It's all... [3:04] Oh, hey. [3:20] Vietnam is in all that state at the present time. [3:22] You see what that means. [3:24] You see now, from your trip to China, you can see where you're going to be going. [3:31] The Russian trip, you can see where you're going to be going. [3:34] I said when I got back, Vietnam, your trip, you can see where you're going to be going. [3:39] Through October, we'll be in pretty good shape. [3:42] Happy October. [3:44] And they will make another announcement, whatever. [3:49] And then they'll make a money announcement, in general. [3:55] And then they'll make another announcement, in general. [4:03] And then they'll make another announcement, in general. [4:12] I'll put it over there. [4:14] It doesn't collapse on its own. [4:19] It can't collapse. [4:21] It must not collapse. [4:23] I have to do this question, and I will not do it on call. [4:27] I'll just do it in the office. [4:29] I'll just do it in the office and lay it out there cold and hard. [4:34] I'll let you have the best conversation with the senator. [4:38] But there's no point going to Moscow if we aren't going to do that. [5:03] No, I'm not possessing the aircraft. [5:05] I only have the attachment, and that's it. [5:10] But you could run, but still be civilized. [5:14] I don't think that's going to work. [5:16] I don't think anybody's going to believe anything about elections right now. [5:19] I'd like to, I'd like to get a lot of our roots on the remote course and all that. [5:25] And if you can prepare and get a lot of restaurants and so forth, I'd like to be looking at it. [5:32] And I'll be hardlining this and I'll always stick my chin out there. [5:35] There's a lot going on here in Mansfield. [5:40] I've got to bring him in, too. [5:43] Tomorrow, maybe after Easter, we've got less than 11. [5:46] And that's when we're at our best. [5:48] We're going to help that. [5:50] We're going to stick it to our mind. [5:51] Don't give them a goddamn inch. [5:53] We can't. [5:54] We're not going to run out of there. [5:55] We're not going to overkill two. [5:56] We're going to give two a chance. [5:58] It's after we make this amount. [6:00] But if any of you collapse, you collapse. [6:04] We're going to collapse. [6:05] We're going to collapse. [6:07] We're going to collapse. [6:07] We're going to collapse. [6:09] We're going to collapse. [6:11] If they offer us to put them back early about... [6:13] Spread the record, really, and thank them for everything we've done. [6:22] Here, I didn't announce it, but if you don't just go defensively, no draftees, no ground crew, nothing but... [6:41] like a Russian maid. [6:43] You may go to China, but if you go to China, you have a gunning mistake. [6:52] You will stand to be carried. [6:54] Shut up. [6:54] Today, obviously, I get instructions how to behave. [6:56] The first time I was there, he was very polite and very cool. [7:00] This time, he brought out the black coat of arms. [7:02] He sent messages, no, no, no. [7:05] We'll be between the Russians and Chinese. [7:10] What was your reaction to the Japanese? [7:17] The Chinese thing. [7:18] You noticed how I... You have the few... [7:20] I've backed off of... [7:22] I've backed off of the whole... [7:24] I... You have... [7:25] I was astonished, but I kept saying it a lot. [7:27] You've got to be sorry, but... [7:28] I must say, honestly, I thought the stage performance was unbelievably impressive. [7:33] I thought it was... [7:35] I thought it was... [7:38] I thought it was... [7:38] I thought it was... [7:51] I thought it was strips. [8:01] Must be harder. [10:25] I'm totally unthinkable that the tempo and speed of... [10:48] I don't think they're going to win. [10:54] What the hell? [10:57] According to what the leads are, we've got to throw out there at a certain time. [11:15] I'm not sure it's all lined up. [11:21] That's what I'm having. [11:29] I don't know what that is. [11:33] I don't know what's going on. [11:40] They slaughtered seven dynasties. [11:48] They slaughtered seven dynasties. [11:53] They slaughtered seven dynasties. [11:56] Did that work? [12:00] Did that work? [12:02] They didn't have to stick to anything they had done. [12:06] They agreed. [12:08] They wanted to be done with. [12:11] They showed it over and over. [12:13] How do you rely on others? [12:14] And she was in the election. [12:20] She was better than when I was in the election. [12:25] Great. [12:26] We were responsible. [12:29] I was still waiting on the president to do a meeting. [12:32] I was like, why the hell did we go out there? [12:34] We're not going to sell out. [12:39] But, uh, we're going to do it. [12:46] We're going to do it. [12:46] We're going to do it. [12:47] We're going to do it. [12:49] We're going to do it. [12:49] We're going to do it. [12:50] We're going to do it. [12:51] We're going to do it. [12:54] If they may not be with us, I think once they hang up, they have no more to announce. [12:59] I think that we need to protect them from all of that. [13:04] We need to follow our foreign policy lead and our military protection. [13:09] I think that we need to protect them from all of that. [13:16] We need to protect them from all of that. [13:20] We need to protect them from all of that. [13:24] They do have people in their party, one of their guys. [13:37] They were building slowly a military base. [13:47] What we did in about a year or two, three, let's do it. [13:50] We had to draft the opportunity. [13:51] We wouldn't have to draft the second team. [13:56] We're not going to be on this course forever. [14:00] We're going to be on our way. [14:03] We ought to go where our career drives us more. [14:06] And that's what we have to do. [14:08] I think that's what we have to do. [14:11] At least that's what we have to do. [14:12] That's what we have to do. [14:16] Well, I think Rock was saying that he was pushed. [14:21] Before that, Mr. President, you decided to do a great job. [14:25] You never pushed ahead. [14:26] If anybody was, it was me. [14:30] Well, I'd fight you for $35,000 and $50,000 and $150,000. [14:32] Oh, the $150,000 was more than any of them you distracted us. [14:36] You're not going to continue. [14:40] I read what the detective in Cambodia distracted you. [14:41] We put him on the board, and they had a discussion. [14:46] about the war and so forth. [14:51] We've talked about it. [14:52] He just told me today, he said, I'm worried about the troops. [14:57] Nobody wants to be the last guy to die in the war. [15:00] The only reason is they can't make it. [15:08] We're all doing it again. [15:37] Right. [15:37] I'll get that message out tomorrow. [15:41] I'll go out.