{"conversationCode":"278-045","tapeNumber":278,"conversationNumber":45,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-278-045","startDateTime":"1971-09-16T13:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-16T14:33:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Sep-1971","startTime":"9:20 AM","endDate":"16-Sep-1971","endTime":"10:33 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On September 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:20 am and 10:33 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 278-045 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 278-45\n\nDate: September 16, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 9:20 am and 10:33 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with an unknown person.\n\n     Draft extension bill\n           -Time of action, vote\n           -George P. Shultz, F. Edward Hébert\n           -Deadline, time\n           -Senate\n           -Tactics","filename":["278-045.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:59:13","tapeEnd":"02:02:08","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"278-044","nextCode":"278-046","transcript":[{"start":6.82,"end":27.5,"text":"With regard to that, the vote on the draft, what time did it take place?"},{"start":27.52,"end":32.64,"text":"Find out."},{"start":32.68,"end":34.36,"text":"The point is that what we have to get"},{"start":35.23,"end":41.75,"text":"On a crash basis, before 4 o'clock, the boat had lost, and at that time, I had a common one."},{"start":41.81,"end":48.03,"text":"And I invited Brad, and he said, I don't even know where our shelter is anymore."},{"start":48.13,"end":50.9,"text":"I don't think we can put them up there."},{"start":50.98,"end":54.1,"text":"So on the other hand, I'm going to touch that."},{"start":56.87,"end":57.69,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":76.54,"end":78.16,"text":"In charge of this answer, you see what it means."},{"start":78.18,"end":80.82,"text":"The answer is going to tell us something about the tax, and I'm going to do it at this time."},{"start":80.84,"end":83.6,"text":"It's going to tell us something about the tax, and I'm going to do it at this time."},{"start":83.62,"end":84.61,"text":"I'm going to do it at this time."},{"start":105.53,"end":115.11,"text":"Here's the thing, if you know what you're doing, basically what you're doing is you're going to be quite looking to the center."},{"start":115.15,"end":117.69,"text":"You're going to be right there."},{"start":117.73,"end":120.97,"text":"You're going to be right there."},{"start":121.03,"end":123.71,"text":"You're going to be right there."},{"start":125.1,"end":125.61,"text":"Come on."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and an unknown associate discuss urgent legislative strategies regarding an extension bill for the military draft. The participants analyze the timing of a recent legislative vote and the necessity of coordinating with figures like George P. Shultz and F. Edward Hébert to influence the Senate. Nixon emphasizes the need for a swift, decisive approach to manage political deadlines and ensure the success of the administration's policy objectives.","topics":["Military draft","Legislative strategy","Senate","George P. Shultz","F. Edward Hébert","Political tactics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T12:59:02.576Z"},"topicSlugs":["military-draft","legislative-strategy","senate","george-p-shultz","f-edward-h-bert","political-tactics"],"audioDurationSec":140,"audioFiles":[{"file":"278-045.mp3","bytes":5614028,"durationSec":140.2,"bitrate":320343,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.008Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/278-045.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/278-045","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/278/conversation-278-045","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}