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Conversation 278-059

TapeTape 278StartThursday, September 16, 1971 at 11:50 AMEndThursday, September 16, 1971 at 1:45 PMTape start time02:59:20Tape end time03:06:04ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AudioNARA Description

On September 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:50 am and 1:45 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 278-059 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 278-59

Date: September 16, 1971
Time: Unknown between 11:50 am and 1:45 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Schedule
          -Press conference
          -Meeting with state and local officials
                -Time turnaround after press conference
                -Preparation
                     -[Vice President Spiro T. Agnew]
                           -Briefing paper
                -Clark MacGregor
                     -Statement
                           -Deadline
                     -Staff
                -Communications
                     -MacGregor
                     -Possible announcement

     White House staff press contacts

          -Henry A. Kissinger
                -United Nations [UN]
                -Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak
                -Meeting with Evans
                     -Unknown book
          -Time spent meeting with journalists
                -Godfrey Sperling, Jr.
                -Evans
                     -John D. Ehrlichman
          -Press reporters
                -Meeting with the President
          -Proposal of subject
                -Kissinger
                -Connally
          -Discussion of Vietnam as topic
          -MacGregor
          -Robert H. Finch
          -William P. Rogers
                -Knowledge of subject
          -Kissinger
          -Negotiations
          -Rogers
          -Melvin R. Laird
          -MacGregor
                -Popularity
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Yeah.
Are you able to do any preparing for that meeting?
What time can you set it up?
Now, who's going to run the show?
I mean, I don't want any goddamn public paper that I have to do anything on the same phone.
He will call on the various people who are the briefers.
And he has the briefing paper and all that.
You see what I mean, Father?
They expect me to come in and take over and start, you know, talking, but I'm not going to have time to study it prior to the time I walk in.
I'm going to walk directly to the president and he's going to have me come on.
So you can have everybody on the side of the road.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm on.
They should have already done it.
They don't have it.
They don't have it, Bob.
They don't got it.
Forget it already.
Thank you.
Hello?
I don't want to
I don't want to .
I don't want this to improve.
I don't .
And what he said was, I don't know what he said.
And to back off of what you said, the question was, is it possible that the president might announce that?
And I said, yes, it's possible that he might.
It's possible.
That's right.
As you know, Henry, it's a piece sold.
You'll pick everybody else's pieces.
That's real.
I don't know the reason you said this, but it's true sometimes.
but you just, the whole fight is by the strong leaders.
Can we get people to quit doing this for them, or not?
When has it done us any good?
Probably when.
When?
When has it done us any good?
I'm just respectfully suggesting.
When has Steven Evans and no one else done us any good?
And we saw Evans again yesterday.
Now the next one.
But I think the rest of our staff can be controlled.
My only view is that these meetings with John Erickson, there's a lot of issues.
They're sitting for hours talking to these assholes in the press.
I'm just not sure that it would be... Well, I guess maybe they're...
I guess probably their reasoning is that it would be worse.
Is that the point that we are excited about?
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Very good.
Don't talk for a while.
That's a big one.
What do you mean?
I don't see the press when they're going to see this already.
Yeah.
I agree with you on that.
I agree with you on that.
I agree with you on that.
I mean, nobody else knows anything about it.
Just say we have confidence in the president.
You know, talk about the positive, and there's been confidence in the president.
We've talked about it on the board.
We've left the president down.
We've offered everything, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
I'm not going to speculate about the position.
I don't think anybody should go further than that.
Anybody.
Not the greater, not Dan, and Bill, and, you know, any of these people.
Because they don't do the job.
on the other hand, I don't want Henry to, he is an heir to his country, you know, he's one of those, he's one of those men.
than everybody else, or that's never gonna happen anyway, you know what I mean?
Well, if Rocky had done this, Dale had done this,
and about something that he himself is involved in.
And it's a very romantic situation.
It's a very romantic situation as well, to think that.
And we're out here glaring at them like they are.
And you know what I mean?
It's an act or a reaction.
But I don't mind it, perhaps, if you go to the other side.
I'm sure a couple of my friends stand for it.
But you're great.
Sometimes you'll have a chance to call him, or collect a phone.
It's exactly, I can see, terribly frustrating.
I don't want to let you know that everybody, including the guy that doesn't know like Craig, should do.
Craig is a good man.
I'd like to know.
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