{"conversationCode":"278-072","tapeNumber":278,"conversationNumber":72,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-278-072","startDateTime":"1971-09-16T19:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-16T19:43:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Sep-1971","startTime":"3:41 PM","endDate":"16-Sep-1971","endTime":"3:43 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On September 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:41 pm to 3:43 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 278-072 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 278-72\n\nDate: September 16, 1971\nTime: 3:41 pm - 3:43 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n     Congress\n         -Draft extension bill\n              -George P. Shultz\n                    -Follow-up with F. Edward Hébert, Margaret Chase Smith, John C.\n                          Stennis\n         -Richard S. Schweiker\n\n          -Situation\n                -Republicans votes","filename":["278-072.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:55:36","tapeEnd":"03:57:03","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"278-071","nextCode":"278-073","transcript":[{"start":0.43,"end":0.51,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":0.55,"end":0.75,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.97,"end":2.33,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.89,"end":4.13,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":6.05,"end":6.39,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":14.88,"end":15.04,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":15.22,"end":18.14,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":19.96,"end":20.22,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":20.39,"end":21.63,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":22.69,"end":22.87,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":22.95,"end":23.27,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":23.33,"end":23.63,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":23.65,"end":23.77,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":23.89,"end":25.59,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":26.19,"end":26.33,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":27.51,"end":38.82,"text":"I don't want to lose up my kids and take care of them unless this is lost."},{"start":38.92,"end":41.62,"text":"Then I have to go against it."},{"start":41.66,"end":47.92,"text":"Well, that's it for today."},{"start":52.35,"end":54.07,"text":"He went there against us, didn't he?"},{"start":55.45,"end":61.51,"text":"I said, he's going to vote."},{"start":61.55,"end":67.22,"text":"His father, he didn't give a shit about making the motion."},{"start":67.4,"end":69.28,"text":"What he didn't want to do was to make the motion."},{"start":69.3,"end":69.8,"text":"I mean, who would lose?"},{"start":70.88,"end":72.78,"text":"He's going to vote against it, so he'll be on the record."},{"start":72.8,"end":74.58,"text":"So he's going to vote the table."},{"start":74.64,"end":79.9,"text":"I said, that's why I think some Republicans ought to vote."},{"start":79.92,"end":81.1,"text":"There's four tables that should vote."},{"start":84.19,"end":88.36,"text":"Okay, thanks, brother."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman discussed the political strategy surrounding the upcoming draft extension bill in Congress. They focused on securing necessary Republican votes and managing the legislative maneuverings of Senator Richard S. Schweiker. Haldeman was tasked with coordinating with George P. Shultz to follow up with key committee leaders, including F. Edward Hébert, Margaret Chase Smith, and John C. Stennis, to ensure the bill's success.","topics":["Draft extension","Congressional relations","Republican party","Richard S. Schweiker","Legislative strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T13:01:35.097Z"},"topicSlugs":["draft-extension","congressional-relations","republican-party","richard-s-schweiker","legislative-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":89,"audioFiles":[{"file":"278-072.mp3","bytes":3552444,"durationSec":88.67,"bitrate":320509,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.329Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/278-072.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/278-072","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/278/conversation-278-072","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}