{"conversationCode":"279-035","tapeNumber":279,"conversationNumber":35,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-279-035","startDateTime":"1971-09-22T22:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-22T22:06:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Sep-1971","startTime":"6:00 PM","endDate":"22-Sep-1971","endTime":"6:06 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On September 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:00 pm to 6:06 pm. 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(\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"279-034","nextCode":"279-036","transcript":[{"start":1.59,"end":1.91,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":2.87,"end":3.15,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.92,"end":4.12,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":5.94,"end":6.16,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":6.84,"end":8.18,"text":"Any late reports or..."},{"start":32.55,"end":36.67,"text":"Just so they understand, I mean, please stop."},{"start":36.69,"end":37.59,"text":"I will not see them."},{"start":37.61,"end":41.42,"text":"Therefore, they've been told I'm not going to see them."},{"start":85.45,"end":89.95,"text":"You know, you were talking about the drug sale."},{"start":90.21,"end":95.14,"text":"I will not make an issue of it coming back."},{"start":97.08,"end":98.26,"text":"You remember we talked about that."},{"start":98.42,"end":105.8,"text":"The only part I've had is that he's got to be there."},{"start":105.86,"end":108.06,"text":"He's got to be in the market."},{"start":109.63,"end":112.61,"text":"Go back and see if I can make a long ride."},{"start":112.63,"end":113.85,"text":"I'm not going to put it in."},{"start":113.97,"end":115.71,"text":"I'm not going to put it back."},{"start":115.89,"end":124.34,"text":"I'm going to show it."},{"start":124.42,"end":129.82,"text":"All right."},{"start":129.84,"end":130.1,"text":"All right."},{"start":134.88,"end":135.3,"text":"All right."},{"start":140.01,"end":142.18,"text":"They ought to go after the church."},{"start":142.26,"end":145.29,"text":"They can't go after the records there."},{"start":168.31,"end":168.73,"text":"All right."},{"start":168.77,"end":169.19,"text":"All right."},{"start":169.21,"end":169.67,"text":"That's better."},{"start":169.69,"end":170.11,"text":"All right."},{"start":170.13,"end":170.43,"text":"All right."},{"start":170.45,"end":170.77,"text":"All right."},{"start":170.79,"end":171.01,"text":"All right."},{"start":199.84,"end":204.28,"text":"And other than that, I don't want any announcement made of doing that for me."},{"start":204.32,"end":215.98,"text":"Because if I get out there and I do look tired, or in fact, when I was in the movies, I just made sure I knew what I was going to do."},{"start":216,"end":216.14,"text":"I don't..."},{"start":228.12,"end":229.06,"text":"We're going to have a Q&A."},{"start":229.09,"end":241.73,"text":"I'd say, I think you've got a point."},{"start":241.79,"end":243.94,"text":"It's Sunday coming up."},{"start":243.96,"end":244.72,"text":"It's Saturday night."},{"start":244.74,"end":246.2,"text":"It's going to be too late to get to the East."},{"start":246.22,"end":253.24,"text":"I think some of the rest of us are all quite tired enough to leave."},{"start":254.28,"end":255.9,"text":"We'll be doing that."},{"start":260.51,"end":262.29,"text":"Don't forget, don't use the camera."},{"start":262.31,"end":266.15,"text":"This is one place where I just wouldn't have it."},{"start":266.17,"end":266.31,"text":"Exactly."},{"start":266.33,"end":283.05,"text":"Exactly, but then I could still do it with a Q&A, and then it just doesn't, they'll, they'll, they'll, they can cover it when I stand up, and then, there's a lot of reading when I'm recording, which is not a, that's not, that's right, don't have the camera."},{"start":283.07,"end":285.07,"text":"That's excellent."},{"start":285.11,"end":287.53,"text":"That's an excellent idea that I do have working on, right, please."},{"start":290.63,"end":292.43,"text":"That's good."},{"start":292.55,"end":302.9,"text":"Well, since we're there so late, too, we're there, but you missed the east, and you won't make the west either at all."},{"start":305.18,"end":305.3,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":306.14,"end":306.28,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":306.72,"end":306.82,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":306.84,"end":307.26,"text":"So never mind."},{"start":307.42,"end":309.94,"text":"So don't hang on."},{"start":310.02,"end":311.38,"text":"And they are lying on us."},{"start":311.42,"end":316.11,"text":"There's just no reason for that power."},{"start":321.13,"end":321.91,"text":"That's right."},{"start":322.01,"end":322.75,"text":"Okay."},{"start":323.15,"end":323.77,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman discuss strategy for managing public appearances and media coverage, specifically addressing concerns about the President's fatigue. They decide to prohibit the use of cameras during a upcoming event while opting for a Q&A format to maintain control over the presentation. 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