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Conversation 280-013

TapeTape 280StartThursday, September 23, 1971 at 12:58 PMEndThursday, September 23, 1971 at 1:06 PMTape start time01:54:19Tape end time01:59:37ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Shultz, George P.;  Ziegler, Ronald L.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AI Summary

President Nixon met with George Shultz and Ron Ziegler to discuss public perception and strategic messaging regarding a specific administrative program. The group assessed national support levels for the initiative, noting strong backing from states like Ohio and Georgia. Nixon emphasized the necessity of maintaining a unified position to effectively promote the program and addressed specific comparative data regarding recent fiscal or programmatic growth.

Public OpinionStrategic MessagingEconomic PolicyAdministrative StrategyPolitical Support
AudioNARA Description

On September 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:58 pm to 1:06 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 280-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 280-13

Date: September 23, 1971
Time: 12:58 pm - 1:06 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with George P. Shultz.

[See Conversation No. 9-141]

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 1:00 pm.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
George, with regard to the question, it's probably sort of hard for you.
Yeah, it was a good talk, and it was a fantastic meeting.
The way to do this, Bill, we have to get a good position for this, and a view of what we're talking about.
The only question is do we have to in this kind of cooperation?
Is there any problem with saying that there's a plan that comes to see if there's a support that they could make that includes a follow-up on the idea of the, you know, objections as far as the, I don't think they, I don't think so far as the, this program is concerned.
But the majority of the country, Ohio and Georgia, they're very supportive of it.
But they're out of the country.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Good.
On that one.
Okay.
The increase in .
I don't want to get through my digestion for you in a sentence.
I mean, basically you'll spend a lot of time with me, but I can't.
Basically, you'll spend a whole thing.
The highest drive in the... What is that?
The highest history.
And how does it compare to what you said you tried to do?
over the last year.
I get it.
Well, they find those things are right there.
Eight percent over last year.
Fifty percent over the first year.
What?
Yeah, I understand that now.
I can see that very well.
I understand that now.
I understand that now.
I understand that now.
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