{"conversationCode":"282-039","tapeNumber":282,"conversationNumber":39,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-282-039","startDateTime":"1971-10-20T22:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-20T22:11:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Oct-1971","startTime":"6:10 PM","endDate":"20-Oct-1971","endTime":"6:11 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Price, Raymond K., Jr.;","description":"On October 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Raymond K. Price, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:10 pm to 6:11 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 282-039 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 282-39\n\nDate: October 20, 1971\nTime: 6:10 pm - 6:11 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Raymond K. Price, Jr.\n\n[See Conversation No. 12-23]","filename":["282-039.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:43:26","tapeEnd":"02:45:01","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Price, Raymond K., Jr."],"prevCode":"282-038","nextCode":"282-040","transcript":[{"start":0.17,"end":23.24,"text":"I don't want to go so far as the last generation veterans and so forth."},{"start":30.3,"end":34.97,"text":"I have said, of course, that this couldn't be the last war."},{"start":34.99,"end":45.13,"text":"But on the other hand, I think it could be held up to say, well, we're holding on a false hope and so forth and so on."},{"start":45.21,"end":46.93,"text":"You know what I mean?"},{"start":47.51,"end":57.61,"text":"And so I think that he could just take her and, you know what I mean, those three areas, sort of take that out so it doesn't hold that high of a"},{"start":58.85,"end":82.74,"text":"a lasting piece or a, I don't know any sort of piece, that sort of thing, but I think, as well, it makes a nice balance, let's say, the versionary, the last version, there's all that, but I just think it's a bit too far in the present context."},{"start":83.6,"end":85.28,"text":"But the other one, I think, is fine."},{"start":85.62,"end":86.08,"text":"I'm not very on it."},{"start":86.1,"end":86.18,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":86.2,"end":86.46,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consults with speechwriter Raymond K. Price, Jr. regarding the tone and content of a draft document or speech. The discussion centers on tempering overly idealistic rhetoric concerning war and peace to avoid creating unrealistic public expectations. They reach a consensus to remove specific passages that the President deems too extreme for the current political climate.","topics":["Speechwriting","Vietnam War rhetoric","Public relations","Presidential communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T13:19:28.141Z"},"topicSlugs":["speechwriting","vietnam-war-rhetoric","public-relations","presidential-communication"],"audioDurationSec":87,"audioFiles":[{"file":"282-039.mp3","bytes":3465734,"durationSec":86.51,"bitrate":320509,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.615Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/282-039.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/282-039","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/282/conversation-282-039","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}