{"conversationCode":"282-042","tapeNumber":282,"conversationNumber":42,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-282-042","startDateTime":"1971-10-20T22:11:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-20T22:17:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Oct-1971","startTime":"6:11 PM","endDate":"20-Oct-1971","endTime":"6:17 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Mitchell, John N.;","description":"On October 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John N. Mitchell met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:11 pm and 6:17 pm. 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(President)","Mitchell, John N."],"prevCode":"282-041","nextCode":"283-001","transcript":[{"start":2.09,"end":2.17,"text":"John."},{"start":2.19,"end":2.33,"text":"Yeah, hi."},{"start":2.35,"end":17.68,"text":"One thing that occurred to me, and I'm sure you're going to ask, that's often the first time I've been told, you know, we're going to put a lot of trouble on the ground, and we're told, and so on and so on, and now I'm told, you know, it's all a part of the same thing."},{"start":17.92,"end":30.53,"text":"So, well, when you're older, you know, you're going to find a way to do it."},{"start":32.08,"end":32.74,"text":"I guess you can handle it."},{"start":33.06,"end":41.71,"text":"As a matter of fact, I'm not sure Pearl would slide through it as well as Paul."},{"start":41.73,"end":44.03,"text":"Either way, we'll get back to that distinction."},{"start":44.05,"end":53.46,"text":"I think my idea is that there's a lot of frightening involved in these words, I think."},{"start":53.48,"end":53.62,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":53.64,"end":54.04,"text":"I agree."},{"start":54.08,"end":61.02,"text":"It's the same on Paul, isn't it?"},{"start":65.59,"end":76.56,"text":"The boat will get out."},{"start":78.3,"end":81.8,"text":"Everything else is leaked out of there."},{"start":81.84,"end":84.66,"text":"Now believe me, we're going to leave this out if they don't."},{"start":88.52,"end":93.9,"text":"And the 11th and 1st, and I think the 11th and 1st,"},{"start":94.35,"end":103.93,"text":"And not one qualified, she's the best qualified woman that she's ever qualified to be called Jesus."},{"start":103.95,"end":104.61,"text":"That was great."},{"start":104.65,"end":105.09,"text":"That was great."},{"start":105.15,"end":117.16,"text":"Part of my remarks that I would do in the morning in the huge sapphire is to attack this writer."},{"start":117.18,"end":122.98,"text":"And I don't want to say anything."},{"start":131.42,"end":136.76,"text":"That's how I feel about it."},{"start":139.28,"end":145.31,"text":"Oh, hell, I'm not going to talk tonight."},{"start":146.17,"end":149.11,"text":"Oh, Christ, that's my point of belief."},{"start":149.15,"end":150.77,"text":"That's why I'm here in the morning."},{"start":151.94,"end":154.1,"text":"at the airport."},{"start":155.18,"end":163.45,"text":"Yeah, okay, I'll call you back."},{"start":183.61,"end":184.15,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John Mitchell discuss political messaging and strategic communications regarding upcoming remarks, specifically concerning the vetting or qualification of a female appointee. 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