{"conversationCode":"283-028","tapeNumber":283,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-283-028","startDateTime":"1971-10-06T15:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-06T15:39:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Oct-1971","startTime":"11:36 AM","endDate":"6-Oct-1971","endTime":"11:39 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On October 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:36 am to 11:39 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 283-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 283-028\nDate: October 6, 1971\nTime: 11:36 am - 11:39 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n[See Conversation No. 10-76]","filename":["283-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:17:37","tapeEnd":"02:19:17","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"283-027","nextCode":"283-029","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":16.01,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":18.71,"end":18.81,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":18.83,"end":26.62,"text":"Did you get off the announcement about the speech?"},{"start":26.64,"end":26.84,"text":"Oh, I see."},{"start":26.86,"end":26.98,"text":"I see."},{"start":27,"end":28.1,"text":"Might as well announce to the two of us, to all of you."},{"start":28.12,"end":29.06,"text":"Announce the legislation that Thursday morning."},{"start":29.08,"end":29.58,"text":"Announce the legislation."},{"start":29.88,"end":32.02,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":32.05,"end":32.97,"text":"I'm just afraid it's going to change his life."},{"start":33.93,"end":56.74,"text":"I get this press conference carried in my mind."},{"start":56.77,"end":59.11,"text":"And you think that I will... And you think that maybe this kind of song will save this time in 15 minutes."},{"start":59.13,"end":60.65,"text":"But anyway, this is going to be in less than 15 minutes."},{"start":60.67,"end":61.17,"text":"I don't want to say that."},{"start":61.19,"end":61.57,"text":"I'm just wondering."},{"start":61.59,"end":61.97,"text":"I'm just wondering."},{"start":61.99,"end":62.89,"text":"I wonder if you want to say it even tomorrow."},{"start":63.13,"end":79.08,"text":"For the reason that, uh, as far as the listening audience is concerned, they..."},{"start":79.1,"end":81.94,"text":"I just wouldn't get in the line."},{"start":81.96,"end":82.06,"text":"Uh..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler coordinate the timing and messaging for an upcoming public speech and legislative announcement. The discussion focuses on managing media expectations and the strategic impact of the announcement on the viewing audience. Ultimately, the President expresses caution regarding the potential public reception and the timing of the release.","topics":["Public Relations","Legislative Strategy","Press Relations","Strategic Communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T13:22:15.159Z"},"topicSlugs":["public-relations","legislative-strategy","press-relations","strategic-communication"],"audioDurationSec":82,"audioFiles":[{"file":"283-028.mp3","bytes":3288101,"durationSec":82.05,"bitrate":320591,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.615Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/283-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/283-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/283/conversation-283-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}