{"conversationCode":"285-026","tapeNumber":285,"conversationNumber":26,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-285-026","startDateTime":"1971-10-07T17:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-07T18:43:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Oct-1971","startTime":"1:05 PM","endDate":"7-Oct-1971","endTime":"2:43 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Acker, Marjorie P.; White House operator; Safire, William L.;","description":"On October 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Marjorie P. Acker, White House operator, and William L. Safire met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:05 pm and 2:43 pm. 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Acker.\n\n     Draft of speech for October 7, 1971\n           -Text changes\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n                 -Wage earners\n                 -Windfall profits\n\nThe President talked with White House operator at an unknown time between 1:05 pm and 1:20\npm.\n\n[Conversation No. 285-26A]\n\n[See Conversation No. 10-135]\n\nThe President conferred with Acker.\n\n            -Text of draft\n\nThe President talked with William L. 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(President)","Acker, Marjorie P.","White House operator","Safire, William L."],"prevCode":"285-025","nextCode":"285-027","transcript":[{"start":0.07,"end":4.38,"text":"All right."},{"start":4.4,"end":5.25,"text":"We'll put another video in the next video."},{"start":6.33,"end":33.75,"text":"I want you to drop this out."},{"start":35.79,"end":56.77,"text":"And we're on a separate page, and I'm going to go on to help put this line."},{"start":56.79,"end":57.83,"text":"Thousands of letters of support for the White House."},{"start":57.85,"end":59.58,"text":"Tens of letters of support for the White House as I announce the inauguration program."},{"start":59.59,"end":61.04,"text":"I want you to listen to what people all across America all want to hear."},{"start":63.53,"end":86.66,"text":"So each of these on a separate page."},{"start":86.68,"end":87.62,"text":"But, you know, it's a little bit of a mouthful."},{"start":87.64,"end":88.5,"text":"You know, it's a little bit of a statement."},{"start":88.52,"end":89.34,"text":"And the wire took up four separate pages."},{"start":89.36,"end":90.5,"text":"This is just to give knowledge of the future of the rest."},{"start":91.9,"end":117.82,"text":"I've got this in the wrong place."},{"start":117.84,"end":119.48,"text":"This that I've written here comes in right after they lettered me a certain thing."},{"start":119.5,"end":121.47,"text":"I wrote a letter saying that the thousands of others who have written similarly, I want your help."},{"start":122.14,"end":143.76,"text":"I want you to know how much it means."},{"start":143.78,"end":145.06,"text":"Most Americans will put their country in a local person's hands."},{"start":145.08,"end":146.12,"text":"Here, is that a place where you meet another person?"},{"start":146.62,"end":164.47,"text":"Maybe one or two or under a day or one."},{"start":164.49,"end":164.79,"text":"Pay under that."},{"start":164.81,"end":165.23,"text":"That means all of us."},{"start":165.25,"end":166.95,"text":"For six years, this large wage generation has been, I've received big wage increases."},{"start":166.97,"end":169.38,"text":"And every wife of a worker knows that those increases are practically all that we've done by arriving across the border."},{"start":179.9,"end":209.3,"text":"Before that, this comes right in here."},{"start":209.47,"end":233.43,"text":"Now, I realize that it's popular to be against those who are popular."},{"start":233.45,"end":234.21,"text":"And some, uh, it's considered popular."},{"start":234.23,"end":237.17,"text":"I realize that it's considered popular."},{"start":237.19,"end":238.17,"text":"And, uh, I realize that some consider it popular."},{"start":238.19,"end":239.47,"text":"I realize that many consider it popular to be against the, um..."},{"start":240.6,"end":268.69,"text":"."},{"start":268.71,"end":268.73,"text":"."},{"start":268.75,"end":268.77,"text":"."},{"start":268.79,"end":268.81,"text":"."},{"start":268.83,"end":268.85,"text":"."},{"start":270.54,"end":293,"text":"I'm in a position today just to be against problems."},{"start":293.02,"end":293.86,"text":"I'm not in a stable factory, I don't know."},{"start":293.88,"end":294.7,"text":"It goes into the other side of the chain."},{"start":294.72,"end":295.12,"text":"It's all in my head."},{"start":295.14,"end":295.92,"text":"We have lived too long in this country."},{"start":295.94,"end":296.76,"text":"I know it's crazy, and I know it's crazy."},{"start":296.78,"end":300.11,"text":"Everybody goes to the supermarket, and there are more prices to go, and there are more prices to go, and there are more prices to go, and there are more prices to go."},{"start":300.76,"end":323.85,"text":"Where are we?"},{"start":323.87,"end":324.13,"text":"Where are we?"},{"start":324.15,"end":324.41,"text":"Where are we?"},{"start":324.43,"end":324.69,"text":"Where are we?"},{"start":330.98,"end":354.41,"text":"Bill, I think I should put in, and I'm not going to put in a drift, where we say, because it puts more balance between where we say that we are"},{"start":354.64,"end":381.35,"text":"We have just, we live in a place in psychology where everybody gets some prices go up, you know."},{"start":381.37,"end":382.43,"text":"There's time for some price reductions in psychology."},{"start":382.45,"end":383.77,"text":"When there are windfall prices, problems, prices should come down."},{"start":383.79,"end":384.15,"text":"That's part of 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Nixon emphasized the need to address the psychology of rising prices, specifically suggesting that the rhetoric should include a call for price reductions on \"windfall\" goods. 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