{"conversationCode":"285-039","tapeNumber":285,"conversationNumber":39,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-285-039","startDateTime":"1971-10-07T19:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-07T19:32:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Oct-1971","startTime":"3:25 PM","endDate":"7-Oct-1971","endTime":"3:32 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Safire, William L.;","description":"On October 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and William L. Safire met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:25 pm to 3:32 pm. 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(President)","Safire, William L."],"prevCode":"285-038","nextCode":"285-040","transcript":[{"start":1.38,"end":2.84,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":19.73,"end":19.93,"text":"All right."},{"start":19.95,"end":21.01,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":21.03,"end":21.13,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":21.15,"end":26.34,"text":"All right."},{"start":26.36,"end":26.46,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":26.48,"end":26.88,"text":"It's the second one."},{"start":26.9,"end":27.08,"text":"Page two."},{"start":27.1,"end":27.2,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":27.22,"end":28.24,"text":"Post-it price in September goes through the button."},{"start":28.26,"end":29.48,"text":"All right."},{"start":31.52,"end":52.17,"text":"Where are we?"},{"start":58.37,"end":60.5,"text":"Do you have my company?"},{"start":63.33,"end":87.9,"text":"All right, I'll find it in a minute."},{"start":87.92,"end":88.66,"text":"This is on the, on the problem thing."},{"start":89.78,"end":90.91,"text":"By cutting prices."},{"start":92.32,"end":113.01,"text":"I think by cutting prices is better than, say, an affordable price."},{"start":113.03,"end":115.31,"text":"Hold, hold."},{"start":115.33,"end":115.79,"text":"By cutting prices."},{"start":115.81,"end":115.93,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":116.11,"end":118.75,"text":"No, I think I've got everything I need."},{"start":118.78,"end":118.94,"text":"We're..."},{"start":120.01,"end":145.11,"text":"15 minutes."},{"start":145.13,"end":147.03,"text":"About 17 out of 8 words."},{"start":147.05,"end":147.29,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":147.31,"end":148.85,"text":"Although, some of them take a little longer to read, you know, those letters."},{"start":148.87,"end":149.4,"text":"I don't want to rush them."},{"start":151.52,"end":164.15,"text":"This is too long."},{"start":164.17,"end":167.47,"text":"People get so bored."},{"start":168.31,"end":169.98,"text":"I think we've got a good thing here."},{"start":170,"end":176.86,"text":"We just don't know how people are going to take the, you know, the squealing world or something when they see a little of a curtain dam on the property and they're likely to go right up and down that wall and be interested and so forth."},{"start":176.88,"end":177.2,"text":"But that's fine."},{"start":177.22,"end":178.69,"text":"I mean, if this is going to work, we've got to let it apply to everybody."},{"start":178.71,"end":178.93,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":178.94,"end":180.01,"text":"That's right."},{"start":180.71,"end":192.67,"text":"But I think we're doing it right now."},{"start":195.07,"end":198.56,"text":"I don't care if it's only temporary."},{"start":198.58,"end":203.35,"text":"The market is what happens."},{"start":203.37,"end":204.49,"text":"The inflation is down."},{"start":204.51,"end":204.93,"text":"Jobs go up gradually."},{"start":204.95,"end":205.47,"text":"The market's got to go up."},{"start":205.49,"end":206.09,"text":"That's what's going to happen."},{"start":206.11,"end":207.31,"text":"The market is basically just going to show us that we're up."},{"start":207.33,"end":207.93,"text":"That's what's going to happen."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and speechwriter William Safire review a draft text, likely an upcoming presidential address regarding economic policy. The President emphasizes the need for brevity to maintain audience engagement while debating the effectiveness of price-cutting strategies. Nixon expresses optimism that his economic initiatives will stabilize inflation and stimulate gradual job growth and market recovery.","topics":["Economic policy","Speechwriting","Inflation","Labor market","Public communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T13:29:38.953Z"},"topicSlugs":["economic-policy","speechwriting","inflation","labor-market","public-communication"],"audioDurationSec":212,"audioFiles":[{"file":"285-039.mp3","bytes":8495872,"durationSec":212.27,"bitrate":320193,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.615Z","transcriptGapSeconds":91,"transcriptGapShare":0.43,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/285-039.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/285-039","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/285/conversation-285-039","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}