Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 287-004
Date: Monday, October 11, 1971 at 9:05 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/287-004

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[0:00] uh the uh
[0:22] Of course, generally speaking, on the economic side, it's pretty fair, and I'm sure that they do say it's fungible and so forth and so on.
[0:32] That is, that I've noticed it there.
[0:34] I have a feeling, though, that there's an attitude in some of the networks, spot checks, and I don't understand that.
[0:41] I bet there are going to be a lot of the workers and the animus against it.
[0:49] I mean, anything.
[0:50] That's just wrong.
[0:51] What do you think?
[0:53] They must have gone out and selected people that were delivered to Congress.
[0:57] What I mean is that we know that if they change the summit, they just can't find everybody to get space to do what we're trying to do.
[1:03] Don't you agree?
[1:03] We'll get our polling today.
[1:08] Well, I'm interested in what they'll show.
[1:13] It's not going to show if it's pretty, but it will show if it's wrong, whether it's important.
[1:20] I think, don't you agree?
[1:24] Damn right.
[1:27] Which one did you... Manfield and Mills both were very screwed politically when that came on.
[1:37] Before, Muskie came out against it.
[1:39] And I don't think Manfield and Mills did it because they liked it.
[1:43] I don't know.
[1:50] Here's one that you say that time has .
[1:52] That's good.
[1:59] All right.
[2:03] You know, they're building it for two reasons, as I said about .
[2:14] That's all right.
[2:17] Yeah.
[2:19] Yeah.
[2:25] It's a good thing, wasn't it?
[2:26] You can get a certain tip, certainly a different view from Pastore and you are Newsomery.
[2:36] Newsomery is one of the, I would say, balanced about 60 percent, maybe 40 percent.
[2:40] Yeah.
[2:42] Well, they should answer those kinds of questions.
[2:57] The thing tomorrow is going to be a hell of a surprise to these boys.
[2:59] Nothing.
[2:59] Well, I had to get Henry over the head with that damn hard thing to tell people.
[3:01] I didn't speak to him enough.
[3:02] No.
[3:25] No, no, I haven't even prepared the questions on it.
[3:27] And he and I don't have any, and I'm just gonna have to field that one by myself.
[3:31] I don't want Patrick to know.
[3:32] I don't want Sigrid to know.
[3:34] You're gonna have to open that up.
[3:36] This is just passing down, don't tell anybody about it.
[3:38] Colson doesn't know, you know, I didn't tell him.
[3:42] Nobody knows.
[3:45] Yeah, well, it's very good, you know, it's the way we did China, and it's the best way.
[3:49] But they all feel fine now.
[3:51] He's prepared the economic stuff for your plan.
[3:54] Well, he hasn't.
[3:55] The message about the economic stuff hasn't come.
[4:00] Could I ask you to do this on Pat's economic questions?
[4:05] He's asked exactly the questions that may come up.
[4:10] But the point is that I think he ought to go to Stein.
[4:14] then he could also get some support from SAFIRE on it.
[4:17] In other words, on the economic questions.
[4:18] I do not want him to submit the questions to Conway.
[4:22] We just can't work Conway like that, Bob.
[4:24] You know what I mean?
[4:26] And also, Conway won't come up with anything.
[4:28] This is what he wants.
[4:30] Stein should do the... Stein and SAFIRE together can come up with these questions.
[4:35] And Schultz.
[4:37] Schultz is a question that we don't want.
[4:39] In other words, Schultz can do it for substance.
[4:43] And Stein, okay.
[4:44] Now, they'll know, for example, can it succeed without the support of labor?
[4:48] You see, that's basically what's on those things.
[4:51] And then just the way to clear it with Connolly is not clear at all, this is not a speech, but to check his press conference to be sure that it is not out of tune with his press conference.
[5:00] But I don't want to run over his things with Connolly, you see.
[5:03] We'll have talked to the living council and the legal power over in Texas and pay for it and so you can.
[5:10] Now that's just, Connolly's already commented on that, see.
[5:14] That's the way I want this handled.
[5:15] I think he better get with Stein fast.
[5:18] And with these specific questions, because Boyd kind of really observed it on the front, but with the need of policy for a large wage increase, we've already won out of Richard Byrd to cause contraction and so forth.
[5:30] We need to know that.
[5:31] Stein and Schultz really are the two that can tell you what to do.
[5:35] A lot of the day, if there's any real fussy thing, ask Connolly, but only that.
[5:42] The Meany Woodcock thing, Schultz should answer that.
[5:48] but the powers, review boards, cross-border accounts, a little bit of pay board.
[5:52] I'd like to further as much of that as possible.
[5:54] And also, to the extent possible, we ought to find out when they're going to be ready to go.
[6:02] See, when they will hear from the labor guys.
[6:07] See, I can dodge a lot of things just on the ground.
[6:16] Tell me this, the Banuelos, then how's that coming?
[6:24] Is she going to go up for, where's she taking Wender all the way now?
[6:27] I don't want any goddamn crack on that.
[6:30] I mean, I just want to be sure about that.
[6:32] I couldn't tell from the news.
[6:34] Is everybody sticking, calmly sticking in the ranks?
[6:37] And the Senate, there's no, let this poor woman be crucified or not, or something.
[6:46] Some immigration guy went out and hit her in.
[6:51] He's going to be done in over his good.
[6:56] But with her, what did I say?
[6:58] He said, well, at the conference, he's going to want to be hurt because some of the economy should be in the farms.
[7:07] And what did I say?
[7:11] How's the effort been coming?
[7:12] Project?
[7:19] We couldn't be sure about it.
[7:20] They had been meeting, marrying Midnight Oil among the establishment, and all of a sudden, they were listening.
[7:23] They were waiting.
[7:24] They were waiting.
[7:24] They were waiting just to know.
[7:25] But as far as I know, the bestseller project was underway.
[7:27] They were carefully taking the bookstore and not buying the public direct.
[7:29] That's right.
[7:50] Great.
[7:50] Great.
[7:51] My God, we've got to get it to our people.
[7:56] We've got to get it to all of us.
[7:59] Well, you know, we've got the plan.
[8:02] Good.
[8:02] Good.
[8:16] Incidentally, I know there's something here with regard to Bogey.
[8:18] Maybe, you know, I'll go to someone and tell him to deal with it.
[8:25] He's been told not to.
[8:28] I can't do it.
[8:28] What can he be told?
[8:31] But I've got another dinner sometime.
[8:35] Good.
[8:35] Good.
[8:36] Okay.
[8:37] Bye, Bob.