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(\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"287-024","nextCode":"287-026","transcript":[{"start":10357.63,"end":10363.17,"text":"You called me earlier, but I guess you wanted a chance to rotate."},{"start":10363.19,"end":10363.51,"text":"Goodbye."},{"start":10371.74,"end":10376.8,"text":"I noticed that Henry had called me and asked if there was somebody who could be there or not."},{"start":10376.82,"end":10381.87,"text":"And now who is he?"},{"start":10381.95,"end":10384.47,"text":"Oh my God, I've got to..."},{"start":10384.53,"end":10385.45,"text":"I've got to..."},{"start":10385.47,"end":10385.97,"text":"I've got to..."},{"start":10390.2,"end":10391.3,"text":"I can't quite understand it."},{"start":10391.32,"end":10397.37,"text":"He still doesn't realize it, but I did see him, and I gave him a picture, and God bless, and everything, and he left."},{"start":10397.41,"end":10399.05,"text":"He wants to come again, but..."},{"start":10399.07,"end":10399.27,"text":"Right."},{"start":10399.35,"end":10402.91,"text":"Why don't you do it tomorrow, you know?"},{"start":10402.93,"end":10411.43,"text":"He said, he's done."},{"start":10411.47,"end":10414.07,"text":"He's a goddamned insistent on it."},{"start":10414.83,"end":10416.17,"text":"I don't believe it."},{"start":10419.18,"end":10424.6,"text":"Well, no, but I mean, it's going to have a hell of a problem."},{"start":10424.62,"end":10427.14,"text":"I don't know what the situation is going to be."},{"start":10427.22,"end":10431.08,"text":"I don't know what the situation is going to be."},{"start":10431.12,"end":10434.24,"text":"I don't know what the situation is going to be."},{"start":10434.28,"end":10438.08,"text":"I don't know what the situation is going to be."},{"start":10438.18,"end":10443.45,"text":"I don't know what the situation is going to be."},{"start":10443.57,"end":10446.81,"text":"I don't know what the situation is going to be."},{"start":10452.47,"end":10480.97,"text":"Well, Henry, of course, as I say, and I'll talk to him about pressing the necessary, because he has got to realize that this meeting is very, very important."},{"start":10481.38,"end":10489.2,"text":"The primer of the four friends, you know what I mean?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon held a brief, informal meeting with Pat Nixon in his Old Executive Office Building office. 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