{"conversationCode":"288-006","tapeNumber":288,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-288-006","startDateTime":"1971-10-12T12:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-12T12:40:00.000Z","startDate":"12-Oct-1971","startTime":"8:30 AM","endDate":"12-Oct-1971","endTime":"8:40 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On October 12, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:30 am and 8:40 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 288-006 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 288-6\n\nDate: October 12, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 8:30 am and 8:40 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Privacy]\n[Duration: 3s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n     Kissinger’s schedule\n          -Chicago\n                -President’s view\n\n     Supreme Court\n\n        -Robert C. Byrd\n             -The President’s view\n             -Hubert H. Humphrey\n             -George S. McGovern\n        -Conservative\n             -President’s position\n                   -Strategy\n                   -White House staff\n                   -Ronald L. Ziegler\n\nChile\n        -News reports\n             -The President’s response\n        -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n        -John B. Connally\n        -Charles A. Meyer\n        -Options paper\n        -Possible US statement\n             -Timing\n             -Connally\n             -State Department\n                   -William P. Rogers\n                   -Graham A. Martin\n             -Possible statement by the President\n                   -US position\n             -Publicity for US actions\n\nThe President's schedule\n\nVote","filename":["288-006-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:07:45","tapeEnd":"00:14:05","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"288-005","nextCode":"288-007","tapeTranscriptFile":"288a.mp3","transcript":[{"start":480.33,"end":481.17,"text":"Yeah, I was going to suggest something."},{"start":481.19,"end":483.23,"text":"I think you ought to cancel your trip to Chicago if you have any problems at all."},{"start":483.25,"end":483.59,"text":"What is it?"},{"start":483.61,"end":487.41,"text":"The route you have to do or you would agree to or something, but... Yeah."},{"start":487.43,"end":487.57,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":487.59,"end":488.07,"text":"All right."},{"start":488.11,"end":492.26,"text":"Well, for God's sakes, it's just a difficult street."},{"start":492.28,"end":502.32,"text":"I could go out there and... Yeah."},{"start":502.34,"end":502.44,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":502.48,"end":502.82,"text":"Well, I..."},{"start":502.84,"end":509.77,"text":"It's a hard trip, man."},{"start":514.16,"end":514.96,"text":"It's kind of a dinner, isn't it?"},{"start":514.98,"end":515.08,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":515.1,"end":515.44,"text":"Yeah, yeah, yeah."},{"start":519.76,"end":524.77,"text":"What I do is that we're by anyway."},{"start":524.79,"end":525.57,"text":"I mean, I'll leave this morning."},{"start":525.61,"end":525.95,"text":"It won't help."},{"start":525.97,"end":526.37,"text":"It won't help."},{"start":526.39,"end":529.01,"text":"Yeah, well, we've got to get her food."},{"start":531.67,"end":535.58,"text":"She doesn't want to do things."},{"start":536.3,"end":540.18,"text":"It's like our little boys, though, we have people that are just great and all of them are just fine."},{"start":540.2,"end":548.21,"text":"One of our guys, the staff, found a story that the bird was not really a possibility for development."},{"start":549.52,"end":550.2,"text":"Well, it's not."},{"start":550.64,"end":553.52,"text":"The point is that they don't realize the game."},{"start":553.54,"end":559.22,"text":"I mean, it isn't one of these ones."},{"start":559.28,"end":562.52,"text":"I haven't told him that he isn't."},{"start":562.6,"end":564.48,"text":"And also, I'm playing another game."},{"start":564.5,"end":565.76,"text":"I want to scare the hell out of him."},{"start":565.78,"end":568.28,"text":"See, it divides all of them."},{"start":568.42,"end":570.04,"text":"You can certainly see the play."},{"start":570.54,"end":573.26,"text":"Burdick is driving, you know, right on."},{"start":573.8,"end":577.59,"text":"It makes McGovern and all the Democrats take positions on whether he is, whether he is or not."},{"start":579.16,"end":581.85,"text":"Yeah, Adam, Adam, they are going to heaven, not them."},{"start":581.89,"end":592.82,"text":"So one of our little boys, I know, we say, oh, he's going to be the president of all of this book, and maybe we're going to appoint this conservative, all of the building practice, what, that only came later?"},{"start":592.86,"end":597.6,"text":"You know, what in the name of good God Christ is the matter with people?"},{"start":597.66,"end":599.16,"text":"What is the matter?"},{"start":599.22,"end":600.76,"text":"They wonder why I don't tell the staff anything."},{"start":601.21,"end":603.75,"text":"Well, I'll tell you why I don't tell them, because, God damn it, they don't have any brains."},{"start":603.77,"end":605.93,"text":"Now, that's true."},{"start":607.28,"end":608.47,"text":"No judgment, no judgment."},{"start":608.62,"end":609.11,"text":"They're loyal."},{"start":609.13,"end":610.41,"text":"Whoever did this did it with loyalty."},{"start":610.43,"end":611.51,"text":"God damn it, they shouldn't have sent it."},{"start":611.73,"end":612.49,"text":"They started it."},{"start":612.51,"end":613.67,"text":"They heard a game I was playing here."},{"start":614.11,"end":614.93,"text":"You, well... Why, of course not."},{"start":614.97,"end":615.25,"text":"That's right."},{"start":615.27,"end":618.71,"text":"Let me tell you, you're going to be banned for racism."},{"start":623.42,"end":625.16,"text":"See what I mean?"},{"start":625.18,"end":627.68,"text":"See what I mean?"},{"start":629.82,"end":631.46,"text":"Well, I was going to ask you this."},{"start":631.88,"end":633.6,"text":"The only thing I see in the news is chilly section."},{"start":634.64,"end":636.28,"text":"Now, I want to take something."},{"start":636.56,"end":638.76,"text":"I'm very strong, and I really do."},{"start":638.82,"end":642.83,"text":"If you've got anything, you've got to prepare something tough to say to one."},{"start":644.35,"end":646.07,"text":"You saw what they did, or did you?"},{"start":650.82,"end":651.01,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":651.03,"end":651.58,"text":"What can I say?"},{"start":653.79,"end":665.37,"text":"Well, now let me say, I'll say something, I'm you, whatever it is, but I want you, I mean, I want you to have yours, get hate, the toughest son of a bitch you've got, and working with Conlon, and I want something done."},{"start":665.43,"end":667.41,"text":"I'm not going to have Meyer screw this one up."},{"start":667.91,"end":669.7,"text":"It's time to kick Chili in the ass."},{"start":670.68,"end":671.34,"text":"Now, is that clear?"},{"start":675.84,"end":676.08,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":679.42,"end":679.62,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":679.88,"end":681.66,"text":"Now, what is our option?"},{"start":681.94,"end":683.32,"text":"Can you have a paper over to him here?"},{"start":684.2,"end":684.36,"text":"Yes."},{"start":685.76,"end":690.16,"text":"Well, I did the paper, but I want just a strong statement made, just knocking their brains out today."},{"start":690.78,"end":691.88,"text":"I want it made today."},{"start":691.9,"end":696.99,"text":"Well, what can he say?"},{"start":697.49,"end":701.33,"text":"What can he say?"},{"start":701.35,"end":706.09,"text":"I just want somebody, I just want a public statement made kicking each other in the ass on a very hard one."},{"start":707.65,"end":709.15,"text":"Have Conley make it."},{"start":709.17,"end":710.15,"text":"I want him to blast it."},{"start":710.19,"end":711.37,"text":"I do have to do it."},{"start":711.83,"end":714.43,"text":"Or wait for Lamar to get his play on it."},{"start":714.87,"end":716.99,"text":"But really bust their butts."},{"start":717.95,"end":720.47,"text":"And don't, as far as I'm concerned, there's no appeal on this."},{"start":720.49,"end":722.81,"text":"I want the State Department to come."},{"start":722.83,"end":725.73,"text":"What the Christ is State's saying on this is still temporary."},{"start":730.03,"end":730.31,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":735.45,"end":740.03,"text":"This is the time to do it, and I want to know everything we can do."},{"start":740.09,"end":742.49,"text":"Everything we can do to do it."},{"start":742.51,"end":744.89,"text":"I want a forward kill on this one."},{"start":744.95,"end":747.07,"text":"And I expect State to play with it to a total market."},{"start":748.7,"end":751.52,"text":"And if I ask about it, I'm going to say appropriate action will be taken."},{"start":752.08,"end":754.04,"text":"They've confiscated it in the back American country."},{"start":754.06,"end":755.38,"text":"We will not allow it."},{"start":755.4,"end":756.54,"text":"Appropriate action will be taken."},{"start":762.96,"end":763.78,"text":"Well, one of those things."},{"start":763.8,"end":764.46,"text":"Let me, no, no."},{"start":766.12,"end":777.5,"text":"He said, I don't know what to say for a reaction, but as far as I'm concerned, I approve the strongest possible program on this, but I want it to move, and I don't want it to move around."},{"start":777.52,"end":781.24,"text":"And I want a highly publicized, highly visible, understand?"},{"start":781.8,"end":787.9,"text":"Highly publicized, highly visible statement where we get it on television tonight, okay?"},{"start":788.78,"end":789.76,"text":"Or tomorrow, so that..."},{"start":790.95,"end":791.23,"text":"All right."},{"start":791.47,"end":791.85,"text":"All right."},{"start":791.95,"end":792.39,"text":"Let's prepare it."},{"start":792.43,"end":793.7,"text":"And prepare everybody, too."},{"start":793.72,"end":796.9,"text":"We'll have to save them tomorrow."},{"start":796.92,"end":797.02,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":797.04,"end":797.28,"text":"All right."},{"start":797.3,"end":804.9,"text":"Is there anything else you want to suggest for today?"},{"start":805,"end":805.1,"text":"No."},{"start":806.66,"end":806.85,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":808.55,"end":809.23,"text":"I'll handle it."},{"start":812.75,"end":813.11,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":813.13,"end":813.29,"text":"Yes."},{"start":813.41,"end":819.03,"text":"I'm going to be pretty honest with you."},{"start":819.08,"end":819.32,"text":"Well, we..."},{"start":827.41,"end":827.93,"text":"Very close."},{"start":828.05,"end":828.23,"text":"OK."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":465,"end":834.89,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger met to discuss logistics regarding Kissinger's upcoming trip to Chicago and broader political strategy, including judicial appointments. A significant portion of the conversation focused on the internal administration response to the situation in Chile. The two discussed the development of an options paper and the potential for a public statement by the President to clarify the U.S. position on the unfolding events.","topics":["Chile","Henry Kissinger","Political Strategy","Supreme Court","Foreign Policy","White House Staff"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T13:34:16.365Z"},"topicSlugs":["chile","henry-kissinger","political-strategy","supreme-court","foreign-policy","white-house-staff"],"audioDurationSec":373,"audioFiles":[{"file":"288-006-splice.mp3","bytes":5966830,"durationSec":372.9,"bitrate":128009,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T14:10:33.340Z","originalFilename":["288a.mp3"],"spliceSource":{"spliceType":"bigtape","sourceFiles":["288a.mp3"],"cutStart":463.5,"cutEnd":836.39,"adjustedStart":463.5,"adjustedEnd":836.39,"boundaryMethod":"llm-alignment","confidence":"high","splicedAt":"2026-09-18T14:10:33.340Z"},"transcriptPrev":{"segments":84,"replacedAt":"2026-09-18T14:14:15.133Z"},"audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/288-006-splice.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/288-006","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/288/conversation-288-006","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}