{"conversationCode":"288-007","tapeNumber":288,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-288-007","startDateTime":"1971-10-12T12:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-12T12:46:00.000Z","startDate":"12-Oct-1971","startTime":"8:40 AM","endDate":"12-Oct-1971","endTime":"8:46 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On October 12, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:40 am to 8:46 am. 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11, 25-minute work."},{"start":903.2,"end":905.4,"text":"They said I'd come quickly, Matthew."},{"start":906.95,"end":908.23,"text":"Well, can't you tell them if they can film you?"},{"start":908.27,"end":909.79,"text":"Why don't you tell them if they can film you?"},{"start":910.35,"end":910.73,"text":"No, wait a minute."},{"start":910.75,"end":913.67,"text":"On the basis of something that's happening that might happen on stage, too."},{"start":913.69,"end":914.61,"text":"See, that's fine."},{"start":914.63,"end":917.81,"text":"I might go off on that, Harry."},{"start":918.57,"end":925.76,"text":"I might go off on that point and see if you can say what the view of the back of this thing is going on."},{"start":925.96,"end":929.88,"text":"You can set up film today if I ask you to."},{"start":929.9,"end":932.12,"text":"I think you can film me."},{"start":932.14,"end":932.3,"text":"Okay."},{"start":932.36,"end":932.6,"text":"All right."},{"start":932.83,"end":933.11,"text":"Have a good..."},{"start":935.79,"end":937.93,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":939.89,"end":955.98,"text":"Are you going to do anything for them?"},{"start":960.37,"end":963.05,"text":"Well, yeah."},{"start":963.42,"end":970.01,"text":"The question raised, one of our boys got off the reservation for the first time and just blew a beautiful plate on us during the night here."},{"start":970.09,"end":980.47,"text":"They said he was not a good consideration, you know, and we said that he was not a, there was a problem with him."},{"start":980.49,"end":983.03,"text":"He was completely reversed that."},{"start":983.05,"end":987.36,"text":"They said that was totally wrong."},{"start":987.4,"end":989.04,"text":"Very, very active consideration."},{"start":990.28,"end":991.28,"text":"Very active consideration."},{"start":993.22,"end":995.26,"text":"That's totally wrong."},{"start":996.52,"end":1003,"text":"That'd come out of your job."},{"start":1003.18,"end":1004.02,"text":"Very, very crazy."},{"start":1006.6,"end":1008.34,"text":"He is under very active consideration."},{"start":1009.98,"end":1012.52,"text":"Just say that he's under very active consideration."},{"start":1013.2,"end":1015.68,"text":"Did you see the White House story this morning?"},{"start":1017.16,"end":1018.97,"text":"Yeah, well, that is totally inactive."},{"start":1019.61,"end":1020.91,"text":"Absolutely, totally inactive."},{"start":1022.31,"end":1030.38,"text":"I want him to stay out there."},{"start":1030.47,"end":1036.94,"text":"Let me, like you of course, let us suppose that we were not here."},{"start":1039.04,"end":1044.66,"text":"Ron, can't you see what's done to the opposition ?"},{"start":1045.24,"end":1049.98,"text":"All the Democratic candidates are going to be very actively under consideration."},{"start":1050,"end":1050.68,"text":"Do you understand?"},{"start":1051.74,"end":1055.86,"text":"We're going to make them stand up and be counted."},{"start":1055.88,"end":1056.06,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1057.2,"end":1060.62,"text":"Well, I'd like, if you could, to get that off before I get there."},{"start":1060.76,"end":1064.1,"text":"So what do you think you're doing?"},{"start":1064.12,"end":1067.74,"text":"Well, I mean, I just say that, look, I simply call it."},{"start":1068.87,"end":1069.97,"text":"Whoever wrote the poster is coming in."},{"start":1070.49,"end":1072.17,"text":"All right, all right, all right."},{"start":1073.49,"end":1074.38,"text":"Let's see there."},{"start":1074.48,"end":1076.78,"text":"Call in Spence Ridge and the two wires."},{"start":1077.22,"end":1079.08,"text":"Call in Spence Ridge and the two wires."},{"start":1079.16,"end":1081.26,"text":"That's how you will call us."},{"start":1081.36,"end":1088.81,"text":"You've got this story, and I want you to get off on the wrong track."},{"start":1089.27,"end":1096.17,"text":"Very active consideration, along with others on the whole 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