{"conversationCode":"291-008","tapeNumber":291,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-291-008","startDateTime":"1971-10-13T01:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-13T01:44:00.000Z","startDate":"12-Oct-1971","startTime":"9:41 PM","endDate":"12-Oct-1971","endTime":"9:44 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On October 12, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:41 pm to 9:44 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 291-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 291-8\n\nDate: October 12, 1971\nTime: 9:41 pm - 9:44 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nHenry A. Kissinger talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 11-73]","filename":["291-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:15:13","tapeEnd":"00:21:14","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"291-007","nextCode":"291-009","transcript":[{"start":1.29,"end":1.69,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.71,"end":3.39,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.69,"end":5.13,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":5.75,"end":6.13,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":12.89,"end":13.07,"text":"Good."},{"start":13.09,"end":13.23,"text":"Ready?"},{"start":15.95,"end":16.11,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":16.13,"end":16.43,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":19.88,"end":23.04,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":23.14,"end":25.56,"text":"Well, he sees the big funny."},{"start":28.29,"end":32.13,"text":"It'll show, too, that we're standing by an ally."},{"start":32.76,"end":50.05,"text":"We're fighting the Secretary of the Navy, and he's known to be the second man in government."},{"start":50.13,"end":52.03,"text":"The guy with guts."},{"start":54.73,"end":57.48,"text":"Well, that's... Yeah."},{"start":58.89,"end":60.49,"text":"That's good."},{"start":60.55,"end":61.31,"text":"That's good."},{"start":61.35,"end":63.13,"text":"That's good."},{"start":63.15,"end":63.59,"text":"That's good."},{"start":84.06,"end":87.29,"text":"I agree that this would be the right thing."},{"start":87.35,"end":90.89,"text":"But I've got to show off some of these other clubs."},{"start":90.91,"end":98.67,"text":"You mentioned coming back with it in Japan."},{"start":98.73,"end":107.44,"text":"It all means it should, most of the time, on the presidential line."},{"start":108.06,"end":109.28,"text":"It would be a goddamn good trip."},{"start":110.56,"end":110.82,"text":"Good."},{"start":113.01,"end":113.52,"text":"Good."},{"start":113.68,"end":114.14,"text":"That's good."},{"start":114.46,"end":115.07,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger discussed the political optics and strategic value of demonstrating support for a key ally. The conversation centers on a planned diplomatic trip, which they agree will project strength and resolve, particularly regarding the role of the Secretary of the Navy. Nixon confirms his support for this approach, viewing the potential international visit as a significant opportunity to reinforce administration policy.","topics":["Foreign policy","Diplomatic relations","Nixon administration","Political strategy","Alliances"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T13:39:11.831Z"},"topicSlugs":["foreign-policy","diplomatic-relations","nixon-administration","political-strategy","alliances"],"audioDurationSec":117,"audioFiles":[{"file":"291-008.mp3","bytes":4690338,"durationSec":117.13,"bitrate":320362,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.615Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/291-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/291-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/291/conversation-291-008","catalogNaId":417184797,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417184797","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}