{"conversationCode":"292-008","tapeNumber":292,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-292-008","startDateTime":"1971-10-19T18:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-19T19:00:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Oct-1971","startTime":"2:53 PM","endDate":"19-Oct-1971","endTime":"3:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On October 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:53 pm and 3:00 pm. 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Sindlinger\n             -Harris\n                   -Washington Post coverage","filename":["292-008-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:09:04","tapeEnd":"00:12:00","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"292-007","nextCode":"292-009","tapeTranscriptFile":"292a.mp3,292b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":561.73,"end":578.45,"text":"But anyway, it's going to be out of stock."},{"start":578.49,"end":581.08,"text":"Which you would expect, Bob."},{"start":581.15,"end":585.02,"text":"If Harris was $5,148, Gallup was going to be $3 or $4."},{"start":585.08,"end":589.26,"text":"He should have been $3.5 million."},{"start":595.48,"end":609.46,"text":"It does, haven't we known that?"},{"start":613.59,"end":615.61,"text":"Yeah, well, you know why it does?"},{"start":616.49,"end":623.1,"text":"Because basically that's when their little, their waiters, their waiters go and then they get their fireplace and they knock it down."},{"start":624.16,"end":624.98,"text":"They always knock it down."},{"start":626.98,"end":631.52,"text":"It'll be up."},{"start":632.54,"end":634.52,"text":"But we know it's somewhat better."},{"start":643.76,"end":648.98,"text":"I think what it is, it's sort of a late reaction."},{"start":649.54,"end":652.36,"text":"Gallup almost said it was taken before the Soviet announcement."},{"start":652.42,"end":661.09,"text":"It was taken, it finished the 11th, Sunday before the Soviet announcement."},{"start":661.17,"end":666.06,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":668.89,"end":670.21,"text":"My guess is that they already have it."},{"start":670.25,"end":671.93,"text":"Why don't you tell them about it?"},{"start":671.99,"end":673.17,"text":"Why don't they have it?"},{"start":673.19,"end":677.25,"text":"No, he said it was taken over through the night, through the election."},{"start":677.29,"end":678.85,"text":"You know what I'm saying?"},{"start":680.91,"end":684.6,"text":"Before it was really done."},{"start":684.76,"end":684.96,"text":"Go out."},{"start":685.16,"end":691.24,"text":"There's nothing to do about it."},{"start":691.26,"end":696.22,"text":"I kind of think that it was demonstrated that it was supposed to exist."},{"start":697.51,"end":698.49,"text":"I think you're right."},{"start":698.63,"end":698.89,"text":"Is he?"},{"start":702.27,"end":714.23,"text":"Well, there's a noose on him, I know."},{"start":714.25,"end":717.63,"text":"Where does he get the blood?"}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":544,"end":720,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman analyze recent presidential approval polling data from Louis Harris, George Gallup, and Albert Sindlinger to assess the political climate. They focus on the timing of survey methodologies, specifically noting that current Gallup figures were collected prior to the announcement of the upcoming Soviet Union summit. The discussion reflects a desire to understand the lag in public opinion trends and the influence of media coverage on presidential support ratings.","topics":["Presidential approval ratings","Public opinion polling","Soviet Union summit","H. R. 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