{"conversationCode":"292-020","tapeNumber":292,"conversationNumber":20,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-292-020","startDateTime":"1971-10-19T21:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-19T21:49:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Oct-1971","startTime":"5:43 PM","endDate":"19-Oct-1971","endTime":"5:49 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On October 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:43 pm and 5:49 pm. 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The discussion centers on the candidate’s legal experience, age, and professional standing in comparison to another individual named Smith. Nixon expresses concern over the candidate's stature, ultimately deciding on a strategy to handle the individual if he initiates further contact.","topics":["Presidential appointments","Legal qualifications","Personnel vetting","Executive decision-making"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T13:42:31.143Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-appointments","legal-qualifications","personnel-vetting","executive-decision-making"],"audioDurationSec":42,"audioFiles":[{"file":"292a.mp3","bytes":117474532,"durationSec":7342.08,"bitrate":128001,"missing":false},{"file":"292b.mp3","bytes":70266879,"durationSec":4391.61,"bitrate":128002,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.615Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/292a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/292b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/292-020","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/292/conversation-292-020","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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