{"conversationCode":"294-005","tapeNumber":294,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-294-005","startDateTime":"1971-11-18T11:13:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-18T14:10:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Nov-1971","startTime":"6:13 AM","endDate":"18-Nov-1971","endTime":"9:10 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On November 18, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:13 am and 9:10 am. 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Shultz\n               -Pay Board\n               -Decision\n                      -Shultz\n                      -Announcement\n               -Agenda","filename":["294-005-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:03:23","tapeEnd":"00:08:32","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"294-004","nextCode":"294-006","tapeTranscriptFile":"294a.mp3,294b.mp3,294c.mp3,294d.mp3","transcript":[{"start":213.26,"end":219.56,"text":"Somebody lost their knife."},{"start":244.5,"end":245.29,"text":"I am fine with it."},{"start":245.57,"end":247.1,"text":"We'll make the announcement then, okay?"},{"start":252.06,"end":254.22,"text":"Everybody's now so panting to go that they want me to go, is that right?"},{"start":254.24,"end":256.14,"text":"Maybe we just won't bother going then."},{"start":256.16,"end":263.3,"text":"I mean, I thought George was going to be there, but anyway, I'm not so anxious to... What do you mean, end the speculation?"},{"start":263.32,"end":264.08,"text":"Who's speculating?"},{"start":264.16,"end":265.6,"text":"I'm not speculating about it."},{"start":273.14,"end":273.32,"text":"Okay."},{"start":274.19,"end":282.8,"text":"George, tell him that I was all set today, but I've got a meeting tomorrow, and I'm trying to change now, and I'll know by 437."},{"start":283.12,"end":285.86,"text":"You can't do that."},{"start":292.79,"end":297.51,"text":"But don't do it in a crawling way if you don't mind."},{"start":297.53,"end":298.61,"text":"All right, okay."},{"start":298.63,"end":303.71,"text":"Okay, I'd rather, I just don't like the idea of being, you know, blackmailed into their side of the record."},{"start":303.73,"end":307.62,"text":"It's gone on the last night or something."},{"start":307.66,"end":317.46,"text":"We'll do it one way or the other, but I don't think you can do it in a way where you can affect the, what conditions are we putting in on my going about, am I the only speaker tomorrow?"},{"start":317.56,"end":319.12,"text":"Are we doing anything about that?"},{"start":320.63,"end":325.67,"text":"I don't know what you're talking about."},{"start":325.69,"end":327.31,"text":"I don't know what you're talking about."},{"start":526.94,"end":532.72,"text":"Did you want to be over now?"}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":212.58,"end":527,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with an associate regarding his potential attendance at the upcoming AFL-CIO convention and his interactions with union leader George Meany. 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