Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 295-012 Date: Tuesday, November 16, 1971 at 3:16 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W. Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/295-012 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] So, Chuck, I've been doing a lot of thinking about this labor thing, and I have a feeling that I should not go. [0:19] I know that there are arguments for going, but I'll tell you what, we have a situation now. [0:21] There's all things that are rather general in terms of, you know, where the Senate and the House are pretty political and they stick us around. [0:43] Now, Meany does it, and I understand all that, but, and I don't mean to kick him at the point, but I just think that, I think the country might not understand my distance. [0:47] I'm going down there, you know, I'm trying to get through that tough labor thing to do all that. [0:49] He's been awfully rough, and [0:50] and i don't think you think it's going to demean all that much [1:07] You see what I mean? [1:22] I can't quite say that you support the foreign deal or not. [1:26] Rather, you can go back in the past history, that's true. [1:32] Labor leaders are the lowest end of the totem pole at the moment. [1:40] And everybody's really, you know, if I have to do that often, that's going to be a hell of a thing to do for them. [1:53] And at times you might not. [1:54] And you might go down there and they later on throw something else at you. [1:58] All right. [2:18] There we go. [2:18] And then that may go. [2:20] Even McCracken came in today and showed me the figures from the GNP, which showed basically 4% growth in the third quarter. [2:36] And I said, Wilbur, and I said, how can these people in Congress be 30% off, 33% off? [2:39] They said their preliminary figures showed a 3% growth in the third quarter. [2:42] This shows a 4% growth in the third quarter. [2:43] God damn it, it really is something that... [2:45] And so it shows this dandy company, and incidentally, this now makes $120,000. [3:05] What is it? [3:05] These bargain hunters, is that what they call them? [3:09] Sure, that's what they're called. [3:14] What's the value? [3:18] Well, it's better than nothing. [3:28] I can send a move if you want. [3:33] If you want. [3:33] Over a period of time, it's just on the move because it's a good year coming up. [3:34] There's some retention. [3:35] He really is bullish, isn't he? [3:46] Yeah. [3:49] They got to get that tax bill through in the way we want it to. [4:06] OK.