Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 297 › Conversation 297-038

Nixon & Kissinger

Friday, November 12, 1971 · 2:20 PM–2:25 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 8 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.Conversation297-038 on Tape 297 (tape position 02:00:58–02:09:20)StartFriday, November 12, 1971 at 2:20 PMEndFriday, November 12, 1971 at 2:25 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 297-038 ↗

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Position in tape: 02:00:58 – 02:09:20

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On November 12, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:20 pm to 2:25 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 297-038 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 297-38

Date: November 12, 1971
Time: 2:20 pm - 2:25 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

       Vietnam
            -The President's forthcoming troop withdrawal announcement
                 -Possible press questions
                       -Residual force
                              -South Vietnamese military capability
                              -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                                    -Wives
                                    -North Vietnamese
            -Negotiations with North Vietnam
                 -Ronald L. Ziegler
                       -Briefing
                 -Xuan Thuy
                       -Paris
                 -Le Duc Tho
                 -Nguyen Van Thieu
                       -Possible resignation
                              -Election
                                    -US offer
                 -The President's conversation with Josip Broz Tito
            -Bombing of North Vietnam

                  -Weather
                  -Robert C. Seamans, Jr.
                  -Possible targets
                        -Vinh
                               -“Protective reaction”
             -The President's forthcoming troop withdrawal announcement
                  -Timing
                  -Kissinger's note and conversation with William P. Rogers
                  -Melvin R. Laird
                        -Credibility
                  -Gerald R. Ford and Leslie C. Arends
                        -The President's handling
                  -Credit
                  -Possible press questions
                  -Negotiations in Paris
             -Handling
                  -Compared with other wars
                        -Abraham Lincoln, Franklin D. Roosevelt and [Thomas] Woodrow
                               Wilson
                        -Public reaction
             -The President's forthcoming troop withdrawal announcement
                  -Kissinger's forthcoming call to Ronald W. Reagan

       The President's schedule
            -National Security Council [NSC]
                  -Agenda
                         -Anti-ballistic missiles [ABMs]
                         -Kissinger, Gerard C. Smith and Rogers

Kissinger left at 2:25 pm.

No transcript is available yet for this conversation.

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Conversation 297-038, November 12, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/297-038 (accessed November 15, 2026).