Nixon White House TapesTape 297 › Conversation 297-041

Nixon & Butterfield on Child welfare policy and Presidential veto

Friday, November 12, 1971 · 2:40 PM–2:41 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building ·10 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Butterfield, Alexander P.Conversation297-041 onTape 297 (tape position 02:12:08–02:22:00)StartFriday, November 12, 1971 at 2:40 PMEndFriday, November 12, 1971 at 2:41 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 297-041 ↗

President Nixon consults with Alexander P. Butterfield regarding a pending piece of legislation involving child welfare and family policy. Nixon expresses a firm philosophical objection to government-run child-rearing and explicitly states his refusal to sign the bill. He further discusses Secretary Elliot Richardson’s position on the matter, ultimately resolving to find a pretext to veto the legislation while maintaining his public stance.

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Mae'n ddim yn gwneud unrhyw ffordd gwahanol.
Dwi ddim yn meddwl y bydd rhain yn gwneud rhywbeth
Diolch.
Diolch yn fawr.

On November 12, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:40 pm to 2:41 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 297-041 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 297-41

Date: November 12, 1971
Time: 2:40 pm – 2:41 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.

       The President's schedule

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 3:55 pm.
  • 617-012 2:26 PM · 1 hr 8 min — President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger, Stephen B. Bull, Clark MacGregor, William E. Timmons, Ronald L. Ziegler, Michael J. ("Mike") Mansfield, Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford, Milton R. Young, Allen J. Ellender, George H. Mahon, Frank T. Bow, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:26 pm and 3:36 pm.
  • 014-084 2:36 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone from 2:36 pm to 2:38 pm.
  • 297-040 2:36 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:36 pm to 2:38 pm.
  • 014-085 2:38 PM · 4 min — John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:38 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 297-042 2:41 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:41 pm and 3:55 pm.
  • 297-043 2:41 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:41 pm and 3:55 pm.
  • 297-044 2:41 PM · 54 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:41 pm and 3:55 pm.
  • 297-045 2:41 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:41 pm and 3:55 pm.

Conversation 297-041, November 12, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/297-041 (accessed September 18, 2026).