{"conversationCode":"298-033","tapeNumber":298,"conversationNumber":33,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-298-033","startDateTime":"1971-11-11T22:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-11T22:25:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Nov-1971","startTime":"5:20 PM","endDate":"11-Nov-1971","endTime":"5:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On November 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:20 pm and 5:25 pm. 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Peterson\n                -Textile vote\n\nAn unknown person entered at an unknown time after 5:20 pm.\n\nThe unknown person left at an unknown time before 5:25 pm.\n\n     Haldeman's forthcoming conversation with John B. Connally\n\n     Secretary of Commerce\n          -Peter M. Flanigan\n          -Anthony J. Jurich\n                -Relationship with Mitchell\n                -David M. Kennedy\n          -Flanigan\n                -Relationship with Henry A. Kissinger and George P. Shultz\n          -Connally\n                -Peterson\n          -Unknown man\n\n     Business Council\n          -Peterson\n\n     Senate vote","filename":["298-033.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:25:44","tapeEnd":"03:29:55","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"298-032","nextCode":"298-034","transcript":[{"start":2.71,"end":4.86,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":6.33,"end":27.08,"text":"Would you try to get a whole bull or Alex to tell him that I just can't take any more calls from him on anything, anything, unless, one exception, unless it has something to do with the table, right?"},{"start":27.1,"end":29.14,"text":"Because that's what I'm really worried or concerned about instead."},{"start":30.1,"end":32.36,"text":"Or I just try to keep talking about the truth and he doesn't know goddamn what he's up to."},{"start":32.38,"end":35.49,"text":"And Larry, of course, and I just call him directly, and I'm just not going to talk to him about it."},{"start":35.47,"end":53.63,"text":"And they get many calls over each other, come in, just say, I'm sorry, I'm tied up."},{"start":53.66,"end":54.38,"text":"We've got a crisis in the paperwork."},{"start":54.4,"end":54.74,"text":"I'm just tied up."},{"start":54.76,"end":57.82,"text":"I just can't be interrupted on this."},{"start":57.84,"end":58.66,"text":"I'm just on that for the rest of the day."},{"start":58.68,"end":59.38,"text":"And I spend an hour on agriculture."},{"start":59.4,"end":59.5,"text":"Okay."},{"start":59.52,"end":59.92,"text":"Can you handle that?"},{"start":59.94,"end":60.51,"text":"You get a little better yet?"},{"start":60.52,"end":60.62,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":60.65,"end":60.89,"text":"Really good?"},{"start":60.91,"end":61.01,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":61.03,"end":61.51,"text":"Doesn't want to hear it."},{"start":61.53,"end":61.71,"text":"No."},{"start":61.79,"end":61.85,"text":"No."},{"start":66.5,"end":90.78,"text":"The idea of being an internationalist."},{"start":90.8,"end":90.9,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":90.92,"end":92.24,"text":"Well, it was a pretty goddamn national struggle in Mexico, though."},{"start":92.26,"end":92.36,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":92.38,"end":92.48,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":92.5,"end":92.6,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":92.62,"end":92.72,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":92.74,"end":92.84,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":92.86,"end":92.96,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":92.98,"end":93.08,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":93.1,"end":93.2,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":93.45,"end":112.61,"text":"Well, let's, uh, when Connolly gets back, we ask him about it."},{"start":112.64,"end":112.74,"text":"Sure."},{"start":112.76,"end":113.54,"text":"Well, those facts we can't inform on."},{"start":113.56,"end":114.6,"text":"Uh, but you could do that with the planet."},{"start":118.54,"end":136.87,"text":"No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no."},{"start":138.17,"end":140.55,"text":"I don't."},{"start":142.06,"end":144.5,"text":"I don't."},{"start":145.06,"end":146.34,"text":"I don't."},{"start":146.72,"end":157.16,"text":"And you see, Kennedy isn't sophisticated enough to look it over, but I don't know any jurors very well."},{"start":157.18,"end":159.17,"text":"He's a doctrinaire right-winger who just can't have any in that job, and that's all there is to it."},{"start":159.19,"end":160.49,"text":"I think Blanigan's the best man."},{"start":160.51,"end":162.91,"text":"Blanigan, the main thing is, I just need somebody in the job who'll work with Kissinger and Charles."},{"start":163.28,"end":192.06,"text":"you know we're part of the team i just don't think i don't want another another three-hander oh it's a hello and important assignment"},{"start":194.5,"end":198.53,"text":"."},{"start":198.54,"end":214.17,"text":"."},{"start":214.19,"end":214.21,"text":"."},{"start":214.23,"end":214.25,"text":"."},{"start":214.27,"end":214.29,"text":"."},{"start":214.31,"end":214.33,"text":"."},{"start":214.7,"end":230.5,"text":"My deal with them is that they're doing a lot of great things."},{"start":230.52,"end":235.12,"text":"On the contrary, I think they like it."},{"start":235.14,"end":236.15,"text":"The business council types are always one of them."},{"start":236.16,"end":241.55,"text":"See, he's got an international type of business, and I've met all of them."},{"start":241.57,"end":241.77,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":241.79,"end":242.07,"text":"Anything else?"},{"start":242.09,"end":243.03,"text":"They had a very good book this time."},{"start":243.2,"end":250.05,"text":"Okay, fine, fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. 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