Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 298-035 Date: Thursday, November 11, 1971 at 5:25 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W. Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/298-035 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] Yeah. [0:02] Yeah. [0:07] Yeah. [0:09] Yeah. [0:13] Yeah. [0:25] Yeah. [0:25] Yeah. [0:25] Yeah. [0:28] The situation is that they have to be in by next week. [0:44] No, I'm sorry. [0:45] By the end of this week. [0:47] Yeah. [0:49] So, I think it's all right. [0:58] Yeah. [1:21] Yeah. [1:21] Yeah. [1:22] Yeah. [1:22] Yeah. [1:22] Yeah. [1:22] Yeah. [1:22] Well, I figured I'd just take that. [1:23] How much did the market go up today? [1:24] Another 11. [1:24] It worked. [1:28] I don't care. [1:47] They'll say it's uncertain. [1:48] At least I don't know you. [2:03] So it just got reduced, so the market went down again. [2:19] Yeah. [2:19] Yeah, the market went up. [2:20] I don't think it went up well, pretty good. [2:25] Probably the damn thing kind of went down because it burned. [2:27] Ha ha. [2:34] That's pretty much, what a bunch of goddamn, uh, timid, livid pastors. [2:55] That's unbelievable. [2:55] Pastors on the past, they all know that. [2:56] And I'll tell you when it passes, they'll, they'll say, oh, well, we just found out already. [2:58] And they thought it was going to be a negative or bearish statement or something. [3:04] The market thing gets hit to the right looking around. [3:30] How about Reagan? [3:30] You can't touch him. [3:30] He's a good man. [3:31] Run to the end of the way. [3:31] I must be worried. [3:32] Are you still bullish on America? [3:32] Uh-huh. [3:33] Well, there it is. [3:33] I'll leave it at that. [3:35] I think this is going to hurt our bullpen on Tuesday night anyway. [3:41] Business has always been the line of business to its great creditors in this country's history. [3:59] They've always been ahead of the people, and they have forecast what people will do, and they lead the people. [4:04] Now business, the people are ahead of business, and businessmen are leaders. [4:08] They should lead and not be followers, and now the people are leading the business. [4:12] On the other hand, looking at Main Street business, the Chamber of Commerce people who call their bullwish bulls pretty good. [4:29] That's Main Street. [4:30] They reflect folks. [4:31] That's exactly my point. [4:31] It's pretty, it's pretty. [4:32] Chuck, as I said, the leader types, the leader business types are the ones that are sitting on their butts and so forth. [4:38] Yeah. [4:39] Oh, they're a sad bunch. [4:41] They're a sad bunch. [4:51] Well, the other thing is, too, is that to keep the heat on our Durham, there's a money supply thing now. [5:09] Flannigan and the others, the other head of Wall Street, Patrick Archer, don't refuse to do that. [5:10] Do we? [5:11] I don't know what's going to happen. [5:12] This is why I have the problem. [5:21] I'm not sure it is junk. [5:29] I'm not sure it is my supply. [5:30] I'm not sure it is my supply. [5:30] I know that's the shell story. [5:31] I'm acquainted with it, but I've got a psychology that I don't understand. [5:32] I'm not sure it is my supply. [5:33] I'm not sure it is my supply. [5:34] Two years ago, they said it was Cambodia. [5:48] Well, it wasn't Cambodia. [5:49] God damn it, you know. [5:49] And they'd say, well, in certain reports, it's over in uncertainty. [5:51] It's uncertainty over this or that. [5:51] And what it really is, is we've got to have different people. [5:53] I mean, this economy's been pretty damn good. [5:54] Consumers, as Chelsea said, are the heroes of the whole thing. [6:19] They kept right on buying, right? [6:20] This year, they're buying cars, they're buying houses, they're buying retail stores. [6:22] There we are. [6:22] He can't just bring himself up to be incompetent. [6:23] That's very hard. [6:25] All right. [6:48] How about Stan? [6:48] Oh, boy. [6:48] Here. [6:48] I'm always amused when I see something like that. [6:49] I'm always amused when I see something like that. [6:50] You get too excited about these temporal boxes. [6:55] We got along very well today at the Senate. [7:06] Well, that was too then, but... [7:20] The Senate, in other words, had to turn it around. [7:22] Bullets. [7:22] Bullets. [7:23] They couldn't help very soon. [7:23] It really must be given a lot of thought to it. [7:24] But beyond that, the timeline of fortune, most of it's fairly bullish for next year or not. [7:53] They're basing that on consumer stuff. [8:15] They can't be basing it on the goddamn market. [8:16] Yeah. [8:16] They have a bunch of jobs. [8:17] Well, anyway, it'll take, it's got to go up. [8:18] Yeah. [8:18] We better have the lift later. [8:19] The lift now, that's for sure. [8:19] Keep burning, burning, going. [8:20] That's the thing, man. [8:23] I've heard that he has. [8:38] Good. [8:39] Yeah. [8:39] From this, now they get an initial situation, you know, which has nothing to do with most of it. [8:47] That's the way they are, though. [8:52] Yeah. [8:52] Yeah. [8:56] All right, we'll try that. [9:12] Okay. [9:12] All right.